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  1. #1

    Soooo when hl gonna be nerfed?

    ultra high recovery- cant be punished by gb. Op 50/50 ...Safe back light with huge range even his unblock have wierd range, And bugged feature where he is in off stance and bam he light parried you oh oh and 300 ms poke in off stance XD
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    If you think he needs a nerf then youre wrong. If you think his kick grab is an OP 50/50 then you have no idea what youre talking about.
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    I just love how you use the forum as a diary. When someone beats you, even with a totally weaker character than your own, you appaer and spam nonsense on the forum about nerfs.


    You know what really needs nerf? The bs spike from Lawbringer after a parry. It is so fair to lose 28 hp, a ton of stamina and be blinded because the opponent got a heavy attack read.
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    I was having some problems against a high level HL who managed to kill my warlord, normally I would won that matches, but he was a monster.
    The thing is the 50/50 grab as you call it can be rolled out,but my sense of honor negated that simple tactic.That was enough to kill me , all rounds were close, he barely won.
    Actually saint yeets is a high level HL and reminded me that in offensive stance a simple undodgeable is enough to beat the pressure.

    So yeah you only need to back roll (I don´t care about honor now) and to do undodgeables or quick lights(maybe back lights) to actually render their offensive stance tactics almost useless.

    He can be strong in good hands but I don´t think he is more than B- tier actually, so you ask too much for those nerfs, maybe only some bugs he has need to be corrected but thats about it.
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    Highlander really doesnt belong to a tier list in the traditional sense. If played well, he can trash characters like conq, warden, cent, and law yet hes hard countered by others such as nobushi, orochi or anyone with a dodge attack really. Plus even then you can dodge when you see his kick and roll if you see the grab come out and beat the mix up every time no matter the character. If you can beat his kick to grab and be patient then hes a lot less scary then you think.

    When the new testing ground changes come out highlander will be one of the bottom heroes along the likes of jorm, and shinobi. He already has more negative match ups then positive and neutral ones put together. Are there going to be players who still use highlander and win. Yes and this will always be the case. But these players will be super turtling and unable to use 3/4ths of highlanders kit with constant feinting to neutral over fears of being countered simply because characters have dodge attacks exist. But also just roll.
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    Hahahaha HL needs a nerf? You don't know what you're talking about.
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    *audience background laugh*

    Honestly the only issue I have with highlander is the same as with every omni direction crushing counter character and that’s the fact that you can pretty much negate a lot of stuff via backwalk light and can’t really be punished for it.
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    It depends on what you're trying to punish with a GB. If you're trying to punish his kick then you absolutely can get a GB on reaction. I don't know caber toss's recovery off hand.
    If a Highlander is constantly back walking and whiffing a light literally just hold forward. That extra range means it's harder for him to whiff to get into OF. in most cases walking forward means if he tries to whiff he'll hit your guard. I'm assuming you mean kick soft feint into toss as the "op 50/50." Several heros have a way to counter both things. LB is probably one of the few heros who doesn't have a way to do so. Just roll his mix up if you can't be bothered to try and play into the mix. finally his 400ms OF lights have low damage and very low range. About they only thing they're good for is stuffing someone trying to mix you up in OF.

    HL does have some icky aspects about his kit. But he shouldn't be receiving any nerfs without buffs. He's one of the last remaining heros that need pretty strong changes to make them both healthier for the game but also viable. I detest how HL is forced to turtle in OF and essentially play defensively to punish people with a dodge attack that rewards high damage. But he shouldn't be nuked because of that.
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