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[xxFratosxx]

A remaster does not change the fundamental mechanics of a product, while a remake could and would do just that. Since the fundamentals of Wildlands are much, much better than in Breakpoint, there's no need to rework the mechanics of Wildlands. But you can still new maps/DLC to a remaster, just like an artist can add new tracks to an old album when it is remastered without recording all of the album again.

A new, enhanced edition, updated to perfection. And a bit grittier if possible, Wildlands could use a bit of that. Less looting, more shooting.

I think that's where a lot of players get confused on. Remaster is literally the same game but just a slight buff of the original. Remaster is intended for older games thats not supported anymore meaning it won't get any new updates. However, some remasters may add something extra than the original but it'll be very small. This why some games say Ultimate or Defintive edition to get that extra content. Asking for maps and mission isn't considered a remaster but it'll be more of a remake which can risk the chance originality of the older version.

Ubisoft would probably not have the same team like Ubi Bucharest to work with and Ubi Paris who still may not have the same devs. It may be better or worst. I honestly think instead of a remaster just ask for an upgrade just like the current consoles are doing. 60+ fps and graphical upgrades. I highly doubt Ubisoft would do updates for new maps and missions cause Breakpoint is still running. I can see a petition or even a boycott from the players who really love Breakpoint over Wildlands.

The safest strategy is to either do a console upgrade, a remake, or a sequel titled Wildlands 2. Heck they can even do what The Division is doing with the new game Red Storm is coming out with title The Division Heartland. This a standalone game coming out before the new content for The Division 2. Both games will be supported at the same time. Perhaps GR can still have the Breakpoint supported while pushing a standalone title at the same time. The Division is getting all the bells and whistles and that Heartland title is coming to PC, consoles, and mobile. Personally I'm looking forward to a new GR even if it's called Wildlands 2 but I rather they reboot maybe the earlier GR.

[Megalodon26]

I think that's where a lot of players get confused on. Remaster is literally the same game but just a slight buff of the original. Remaster is intended for older games thats not supported anymore meaning it won't get any new updates. However, some remasters may add something extra than the original but it'll be very small. This why some games say Ultimate or Defintive edition to get that extra content. Asking for maps and mission isn't considered a remaster but it'll be more of a remake which can risk the chance originality of the older version.

Ubisoft would probably not have the same team like Ubi Bucharest to work with and Ubi Paris who still may not have the same devs. It may be better or worst. I honestly think instead of a remaster just ask for an upgrade just like the current consoles are doing. 60+ fps and graphical upgrades. I highly doubt Ubisoft would do updates for new maps and missions cause Breakpoint is still running. I can see a petition or even a boycott from the players who really love Breakpoint over Wildlands.

The safest strategy is to either do a console upgrade, a remake, or a sequel titled Wildlands 2. Heck they can even do what The Division is doing with the new game Red Storm is coming out with title The Division Heartland. This a standalone game coming out before the new content for The Division 2. Both games will be supported at the same time. Perhaps GR can still have the Breakpoint supported while pushing a standalone title at the same time. The Division is getting all the bells and whistles and that Heartland title is coming to PC, consoles, and mobile. Personally I'm looking forward to a new GR even if it's called Wildlands 2 but I rather they reboot maybe the earlier GR.

Fratos, I don't think anyone is asking for a remastered GRW to be released right now. But like you said, a smaller studio could be working on it, for a release in 2022/23, after they've stopped supporting Breakpoint. Then that would leave Ubi Paris until 2023 or 2024 to develop a true sequel to the franchise, without the same pressures. There's already going to be a ton of pressure and scrutiny , having to follow Breakpoint, to see if they've learned from their mistakes. So why not remove the added pressure of time restraints, just so that the company meet their fiscal targets

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So I’ll be the one to say it I guess and play devils advocate. First off, I hear y’all and I understand what you’re saying, but there’s too much romanticization with wildlands IMO especially when asking for any type of remaster of the game.

In hindsight, wildlands world and narrative feel really good especially after the debacle of breakpoint. It’s nice to go back and experience what Bolivia provided to us as far as gameplay and narrative. But a remaster? I honestly think that would be a waste of time.

We need elements that we’ve been discussing to come to fruition, like a gear management system where what you wear matters. A camouflage system where AI actually responds to what type of colors you wear within the terrain you’re in (wearing a ghillie suit). Better teammate and enemy AI so combat can get to a place where tactics feel more real IE enemies flank more, lay down suppressing fire and feel like they are working together in every engagement. Teammates that can be controlled individually and ordered to precision. A more in depth ballistic system, a world where 300- meters isn’t the average engagement distance(especially for sniping). Devs utilizing new hardware to make engagements feel larger: engaging enemies in gun fights at 400, 500, 600, 700, 800+ meters (longer average sniping distances) and the ballistics to match per weapon within this scaling. An updated suppression system where suppressors don’t make bullets sound like a holllywood spy movie, gun smith, etc etc.

There are so many things to discuss and push for in hopes that the devs will create new features and mechanics for this franchise and y’all really want the devs to waste time with a wildlands remaster? Or worse yet, have them think that all they need to do is recreate wildlands in the aggregate for a new game and that will suffice? Heck that might even be why we’re seeing Bowman in Year 2. They think any connection to wildlands can be a win for them.

I really don’t think we need to remaster Bolivia with new missions, some bells and whistles here and there, just to see them slap a price tag on it, so we can sit there and replay a game from a few years ago and realize, ya, this ain’t what we want or need moving forward. How low do we wanna set the bar for this franchise and for ubi paris?

Is it as simple as them messing up 1 game so bad (Breakpoint) that we’re willing accept Wildlands as the Gold standard and ask for a remaster only a few years after it’s been released?

We should be looking forward as to how to make this franchise feel like the tactical shooter it should be, and not looking backwards, which would ensure that no innovation is ever achieved.

[Kean_1]

Some folks are talking about a remaster as if there is a clearly defined set of parameters that define the term in the gaming industry, The fact is, there isn't. Not all remasters are the same.

Yes, generally speaking a remaster will mean keeping the same assets, story line, missions ,etc. but improvements can go beyond just graphics.

There's no reason they can't add a lot of the improvements people have asked for. In fact, a remaster of WL could mean just that. More options, better AI, a more in depth command system for the team AI, better ballistics, an improved gunsmith, more weapons / gear, improved NPCs, a mission creator / editor, etc.

As for the game being too young to publish a remaster, then how about a next gen version? GR is in a unique position with the failure of BP. It's clear (to me at least) that it would be a waste to make a PS5/XBX/S of it but what about WL? Personally, I'd love to see a Wildlands that was optimized for PS5 especially with the haptic feedback features, etc. Assets could be increased, draw distance of enemies / ballistics, more enemies, improved foliage, better textures, increased frame rate, 4k, etc.

[Hugo-FOU]

So I’ll be the one to say it I guess and play devils advocate. First off, I hear y’all and I understand what you’re saying, but there’s too much romanticization with wildlands IMO especially when asking for any type of remaster of the game.

In hindsight, wildlands world and narrative feel really good especially after the debacle of breakpoint. It’s nice to go back and experience what Bolivia provided to us as far as gameplay and narrative. But a remaster? I honestly think that would be a waste of time.

We need elements that we’ve been discussing to come to fruition, like a gear management system where what you wear matters. A camouflage system where AI actually responds to what type of colors you wear within the terrain you’re in (wearing a ghillie suit). Better teammate and enemy AI so combat can get to a place where tactics feel more real IE enemies flank more, lay down suppressing fire and feel like they are working together in every engagement. Teammates that can be controlled individually and ordered to precision. A more in depth ballistic system, a world where 300- meters isn’t the average engagement distance(especially for sniping). Devs utilizing new hardware to make engagements feel larger: engaging enemies in gun fights at 400, 500, 600, 700, 800+ meters (longer average sniping distances) and the ballistics to match per weapon within this scaling. An updated suppression system where suppressors don’t make bullets sound like a holllywood spy movie, gun smith, etc etc.

There are so many things to discuss and push for in hopes that the devs will create new features and mechanics for this franchise and y’all really want the devs to waste time with a wildlands remaster? Or worse yet, have them think that all they need to do is recreate wildlands in the aggregate for a new game and that will suffice? Heck that might even be why we’re seeing Bowman in Year 2. They think any connection to wildlands can be a win for them.

I really don’t think we need to remaster Bolivia with new missions, some bells and whistles here and there, just to see them slap a price tag on it, so we can sit there and replay a game from a few years ago and realize, ya, this ain’t what we want or need moving forward. How low do we wanna set the bar for this franchise and for ubi paris?

Is it as simple as them messing up 1 game so bad (Breakpoint) that we’re willing accept Wildlands as the Gold standard and ask for a remaster only a few years after it’s been released?

We should be looking forward as to how to make this franchise feel like the tactical shooter it should be, and not looking backwards, which would ensure that no innovation is ever achieved.

What you say is true. I think as others have alluded to, there is a misunderstanding, at least from my POV, as to what we want. It’s not a remaster. It’s not WL made to look prettier. It’s Wildlands, rereleased to its full potential.

Imagine how different the game would be if you had bodies that didn’t disappear, teammates that could be controlled as you suggest and enemy AI that behave the way we want. Just those three things would transform the game. You couldn’t sit off and snipe everything, meaning missions would have to be approached differently. And when things went loud, engagements would be completely different. And with these options, youcould approach everything completely differently.

But add in all the things you’ve suggested, as well as so many of the fantastic ideas put forward in this forum and even quite a few features from BP and you have a whole different animal. You maintain the wonderful immersive feel of WL, but deepen the game play. Deepen the immersion.

Ideally they create a Wildlands 2, new areas. New enemies. Maybe even return to Bolivia as a DLC, but I’d still love to see WL become the game it could’ve been.

[Megalodon26]

And nobody is saying that a remastered, version of Wildlands, should replace releasing a new game, Just use it to fill the gap between them killing off Breakpoint, and the studio hopefully releasing a worthy successor to the franchise. When it's ready, and not rushed out like Breakpoint. Plus a remastered Wildlands, that can take advantage of the power in the newer consoles, would likely sell better than a remastered Future Soldier or GrAW, even though it's newer, because with linear games, you're basically limited to only improving the textures

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So I’ll be the one to say it I guess and play devils advocate. First off, I hear y’all and I understand what you’re saying, but there’s too much romanticization with wildlands IMO especially when asking for any type of remaster of the game.

In hindsight, wildlands world and narrative feel really good especially after the debacle of breakpoint. It’s nice to go back and experience what Bolivia provided to us as far as gameplay and narrative. But a remaster? I honestly think that would be a waste of time.

We need elements that we’ve been discussing to come to fruition, like a gear management system where what you wear matters. A camouflage system where AI actually responds to what type of colors you wear within the terrain you’re in (wearing a ghillie suit). Better teammate and enemy AI so combat can get to a place where tactics feel more real IE enemies flank more, lay down suppressing fire and feel like they are working together in every engagement. Teammates that can be controlled individually and ordered to precision. A more in depth ballistic system, a world where 300- meters isn’t the average engagement distance(especially for sniping). Devs utilizing new hardware to make engagements feel larger: engaging enemies in gun fights at 400, 500, 600, 700, 800+ meters (longer average sniping distances) and the ballistics to match per weapon within this scaling. An updated suppression system where suppressors don’t make bullets sound like a holllywood spy movie, gun smith, etc etc.

There are so many things to discuss and push for in hopes that the devs will create new features and mechanics for this franchise and y’all really want the devs to waste time with a wildlands remaster? Or worse yet, have them think that all they need to do is recreate wildlands in the aggregate for a new game and that will suffice? Heck that might even be why we’re seeing Bowman in Year 2. They think any connection to wildlands can be a win for them.

I really don’t think we need to remaster Bolivia with new missions, some bells and whistles here and there, just to see them slap a price tag on it, so we can sit there and replay a game from a few years ago and realize, ya, this ain’t what we want or need moving forward. How low do we wanna set the bar for this franchise and for ubi paris?

Is it as simple as them messing up 1 game so bad (Breakpoint) that we’re willing accept Wildlands as the Gold standard and ask for a remaster only a few years after it’s been released?

We should be looking forward as to how to make this franchise feel like the tactical shooter it should be, and not looking backwards, which would ensure that no innovation is ever achieved.

Well, one thing is for certain, you do not have to sell it to me, no sir, on the contrary, with me you are preaching to the choir.

I, for one, do not want to play wildlands with better eye candy and a few more missions or content, or even with better AI, that ship has sailed unfortunately as I played that game to death. I am going to try to play it in Co-Op (hopefully and soon, my rig is almost done ) but I had enough rinse and repeat of the 128 missions.

Would I mind if they would throw the game a bone and give it the necessary TLC, nope, not at all but I'll be damn if they want money for a game they should have finished.

What you say is true. I think as others have alluded to, there is a misunderstanding, at least from my POV, as to what we want. It’s not a remaster. It’s not WL made to look prettier. It’s Wildlands, rereleased to its full potential.

Imagine how different the game would be if you had bodies that didn’t disappear, teammates that could be controlled as you suggest and enemy AI that behave the way we want. Just those three things would transform the game. You couldn’t sit off and snipe everything, meaning missions would have to be approached differently. And when things went loud, engagements would be completely different. And with these options, youcould approach everything completely differently.

But add in all the things you’ve suggested, as well as so many of the fantastic ideas put forward in this forum and even quite a few features from BP and you have a whole different animal. You maintain the wonderful immersive feel of WL, but deepen the game play. Deepen the immersion.

Ideally they create a Wildlands 2, new areas. New enemies. Maybe even return to Bolivia as a DLC, but I’d still love to see WL become the game it could’ve been.

Ok but again, why would you be willing to pay for it????? They robbed people blind with BP, the least they can do is fixed/finish Wildlands FOR FREE for God's sake. I mean, 60 bucks ain't going to kill anybody (and a few Millions is not going to kill the either) but that is not the point, the point is, they need to MAN UP and return what was stolen and one way to do (with some goodwill) would be to finish Wildlands.

That is while they make the effort to come up with the Proper GR experience they have been lying to the community about. Simple.

[redsept]

Ok but again, why would you be willing to pay for it????? They robbed people blind with BP, the least they can do is fixed/finish Wildlands FOR FREE for God's sake. I mean, 60 bucks ain't going to kill anybody (and a few Millions is not going to kill the either) but that is not the point, the point is, they need to MAN UP and return what was stolen and one way to do (with some goodwill) would be to finish Wildlands.

The price for a remaster with new features and areas/map could be about 20-30$ as a DLC (or 30-40$ as a complete package with the original Wildlands included). No need to ask 60$, since the work into a remaster would be a fraction of the work that went into the original Wildlands. Obviously the amount of new content would be a major factor in defining a fair price for the remaster.