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[MrGrippz]

I dare one of the devs to try to fight a good Tiandi as Warden. You cant hit sh1t cuz you have no speed at all.

Increase his light combo speed
Give him an ACTUAL useful first feat
Reduce his stamina cost to zone
Fix the unlock on his dash heavy

These corrections will at least make him playable. Dudes garbage juice compared to other chars.

[King_of_Xibalba]

in last gen tiandis are a nightmare in general.
now on pc and next gen I can react to most of their attacks, the difference is so absurd between the platforms i literally stopped to hate them I felt pity last day.
The guy panicked and run away after the fourth light parry of his undodgeables , and he was good, he was winning until I went to that game. Suffering them on xbox one and now unencumbered by 30 fps limititations and input lag they are dealing with la santa muerte.

[Sanguinius-IX-]

I dare one of the devs to try to fight a good Tiandi as Warden. You cant hit sh1t cuz you have no speed at all.

Increase his light combo speed
Give him an ACTUAL useful first feat
Reduce his stamina cost to zone
Fix the unlock on his dash heavy

These corrections will at least make him playable. Dudes garbage juice compared to other chars.

Yes, it is true, the reworking of the Warden is crap, still has bugs that do not know why the developers did not want to fix them. Then they ruined the identity of the Warden is no longer a master of the sword have turned it into a rugby player. I have decided not to use the Warden anymore until they create a decent reworking of this hero.

The thing that bothers me the most is that the developers said they were modifying him to help him use his entire kit of moves and make him more offensive, which isn't true, since part of his kit of moves can't be used yet and isn't even offensive (example his second 600ms light)

This link below explains in detail all the problems this hero still has:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitive...en_rework_too/

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Warden is still a top 3 hero in duels. Charged bash heroes are weak against Tiandi, but that has more to do with Tiandi being a very stupidly designed hero than charged bashes being weak. Warden is leagues above most heroes.

In 4s, he is "just" decent. Which is still more than what a usual character is in 4s.

[Gaser.]

Yes, it is true, the reworking of the Warden is crap, still has bugs that do not know why the developers did not want to fix them. Then they ruined the identity of the Warden is no longer a master of the sword have turned it into a rugby player. I have decided not to use the Warden anymore until they create a decent reworking of this hero.

The thing that bothers me the most is that the developers said they were modifying him to help him use his entire kit of moves and make him more offensive, which isn't true, since part of his kit of moves can't be used yet and isn't even offensive (example his second 600ms light)

This link below explains in detail all the problems this hero still has:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitive...en_rework_too/

Original identity: Bash, Top Crushing counter

Identity now: Bash, Top Crushing Counters, Finisher Heavy Unblockables, Roll Catcher Forward Dash Heavy.


Like warden is like pretty still the same design as he was back at season 1, like you sound pretty ridiculous.

Warden always did revolve around his bash not his sword moves, he never was what you call a master of the sword lol.

Play a other hero for that.

[MrGrippz]

Dont get me wrong yall i liked the update they gave Warden [how come Orochi doesnt have all side unblockables on heavy finishers? 👀] but its not quite enough.

His 2nd light in chain from a different direction is like an auto light parry for anyone decent. The charged shoulder bash misses Tiandi & JJ when both are in their stupid dance.

I stick by my buff points in the OP. Tiandi & JJ shouldnt be able to dance/do 20 dodge cancels in a row. Its stupid af.

[Sanguinius-IX-]

Original identity: Bash, Top Crushing counter

Identity now: Bash, Top Crushing Counters, Finisher Heavy Unblockables, Roll Catcher Forward Dash Heavy.


Like warden is like pretty still the same design as he was back at season 1, like you sound pretty ridiculous.

Warden always did revolve around his bash not his sword moves, he never was what you call a master of the sword lol.

Play a other hero for that.

Some people should read before posting.
In the link I posted, he was describing the problems this hero still has after the rework, including a bug that has been present for quite some time.

I personally didn't want the Warden to have a perpetual shoulder bash, just like I didn't want him to keep his most powerful defensive hit for obvious reasons that I won't explain here because it would take too long, I'm referring to "back dodge shoulder bash".
And I was very excited about the idea that they were going to rework it so that it became more of a sword master, perhaps adding new attack chains (Example: H>L>H), and new animations like the stomach stab (The animation of this attack already exists look in the Warden 0:25 trailer video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS5V...hannel=Ubisoft).

And as for his identity, UBI has always referred to him as a sword master (even in the Warden trailer he is referred to as a sword master 0:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS5V...hannel=Ubisoft).

[MastlyCJ]

I dare one of the devs to try to fight a good Tiandi as Warden. You cant hit sh1t cuz you have no speed at all.

Increase his light combo speed
Give him an ACTUAL useful first feat
Reduce his stamina cost to zone
Fix the unlock on his dash heavy

These corrections will at least make him playable. Dudes garbage juice compared to other chars.

Warden does not suck he is very good. Sure he lacks a couple of things like terrible light combo and stuff. There is so many other heros who has such simliar problems in there kit. Plus Tinadi is just a safe character. Just because you couldn't hit Tiandi doesn't mean Warden sucks. Right now I dislike how they did Nobusbi and PK rework. But there is nothing we can do but adjust to the changes. Honestly I might be done playing this game and doing a different fighting game. My friend say it's called Brawlhalla.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Some people should read before posting.
In the link I posted, he was describing the problems this hero still has after the rework, including a bug that has been present for quite some time.

I personally didn't want the Warden to have a perpetual shoulder bash, just like I didn't want him to keep his most powerful defensive hit for obvious reasons that I won't explain here because it would take too long, I'm referring to "back dodge shoulder bash".
And I was very excited about the idea that they were going to rework it so that it became more of a sword master, perhaps adding new attack chains (Example: H>L>H), and new animations like the stomach stab (The animation of this attack already exists look in the Warden 0:25 trailer video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS5V...hannel=Ubisoft).

And as for his identity, UBI has always referred to him as a sword master (even in the Warden trailer he is referred to as a sword master 0:26 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS5V...hannel=Ubisoft).

He is a master of the sword though: he knows how easily it loses its edge, so he does not keep hitting the opponent's guard, he breaks it with his shoulder, and then cuts them up.

Also, Orochi is "the finest warrior the world has ever seen". The world is fking blind then.

[King_of_Xibalba]

he is a master of the sword though: He knows how easily it loses its edge, so he does not keep hitting the opponent's guard, he breaks it with his shoulder, and then cuts them up.

Also, orochi is "the finest warrior the world has ever seen". The world is fking blind then.

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