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    This is outrageous

    Does anyone from Windows PC experiencing this?

    I'm experiencing too much lag, because there's only 18% memory left. The only resolution to this is quit the game and run it again.

    Laptop has 16GB memory

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    Laptop?
    Pretty sure, "gaming laptop" is marketing fake.
    Reduce game setting to the min.
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    Originally Posted by Licher.Rus Go to original post
    Laptop?
    Pretty sure, "gaming laptop" is marketing fake.
    Reduce game setting to the min.
    If don't understand how hardware works - don't even try to look smart. It won't help.

    To OP.
    Try to check detailed resource manager. Seems like you have a memory leak.
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    Originally Posted by As1r0nimo Go to original post
    If don't understand how hardware works - don't even try to look smart. It won't help.

    To OP.
    Try to check detailed resource manager. Seems like you have a memory leak.
    Maybe YOU understand? Maybe you wanna tell us, that CPUs and GPUs with same number but ones are regular and others with letter "M" are equal in performance?

    Memory leak is well known term (but such HW guru as you should know that, right?) and it has noting similar to memory usage.
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    Originally Posted by Licher.Rus Go to original post
    Maybe YOU understand? Maybe you wanna tell us, that CPUs and GPUs with same number but ones are regular and others with letter "M" are equal in performance?

    Memory leak is well known term (but such HW guru as you should know that, right?) and it has noting similar to memory usage.
    Numbers between CPUs on notes or desktop means nothing. The only thing that matters is raw "power" of that hardware. Ryzen 7 4800H is around 2700x desktop version in terms of performance. Same goes to GPU (currently, they are the same as desktop original, but with lower clocks).

    As for OPs memory leak, he has a high memory usage on the screenshot. He also mentioned, that the problem appears during long session (he is restarting the game to solve his problem). So it's highly likely, that the problem is with leak. But 100%, since we don't have access to his PC. In our conditions, we can only suggestion help.

    Again, don't try to look smart if you are not.
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    Originally Posted by As1r0nimo Go to original post
    Again, don't try to look smart if you are not.
    wonder, why don't you follow your own advices?

    leak is not equal to usage.

    there is no "raw power" stat of hardware.

    nuff said.
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    Originally Posted by Licher.Rus Go to original post
    leak is not equal to usage.
    Um....that's actually exactly what a memory leak does. It's a bug or error that slowly builds up more and more memory usage over time, while not actually helping the game or software in any way. Usually resulting in a crash once the leak gets too big.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    Um....that's actually exactly what a memory leak does. It's a bug or error that slowly builds up more and more memory usage over time, while not actually helping the game or software in any way. Usually resulting in a crash once the leak gets too big.
    As you said, it's a bug or error.
    While memory could be used for work.
    Let's say Win 10 req. 2 GB for work - Windows actually using this memory and this is not leak, neither bug or error.
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    One hint: if you want to improve your chances of getting help, use a title for your post that describes the problem. People experienced in diagnosing performance issues and willing to help may well pass over reading your post if all they know about it is that it's someone complaining about something being outrageous.

    Originally Posted by Elizabeth.Grey Go to original post
    Does anyone from Windows PC experiencing this?
    I'm experiencing too much lag, because there's only 18% memory left. The only resolution to this is quit the game and run it again.
    Laptop has 16GB memory
    I have a 16 GB machine as well, and as I recall from the last time I checked, I see similar memory behaviour. I used to see lag from time to time, but it turned out the issue was nothing to do with not enough RAM (or memory leaks, see below) but that I had a page file on my E: drive which is an HDD (i.e., a rotating disk) that also contains the installed game. Moving the game to my system drive C:, an SSD, helped a bit, indicating that the issue was probably contention for disk I/O, but the real fix was to remove the paging file I had on drive E: and page only to C:. Then I moved the game back to E: and everything has been hunky-dory since then.

    This doesn't seem all that likely to be the game's fault: when you have other programs running, Windows will do what it does to manage memory. Closing other large programs, such as web browsers and word processors and whatnot, may help with that.

    And some background: a memory leak is when a program doesn't deallocate memory that is no longer used. Often enough this isn't an issue on a system with virtual memory until your paging space on disk fills up, because the no-longer-accessed memory gets paged out when RAM is needed for other uses and is never paged back in again. (If it were, it wouldn't be a memory leak!)
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    I am on 16 GB as well, and I don't have this problem, or any lag.
    From that partial screenshot, it seems TD2 is working correctly taking less than 4GB to run.
    I would suggest to look at other programs that run in the background, like antivirus or other launchers that tend to start with Windows (if you don't stop them).
    Anyway, something else seems to interfere with the game...
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