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    Nobushi is still trash tier?

    Am i missing something here? im googled for tier lists and found some ridiculous webs saying Nobushi is S-Tier in 2021, but now seriously those same websites wont even count any hero beyond the Vanilla ones
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    MORE LIKE B TIER AFTER REWORK , as PK, maybe Pk is b+
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    PK is more low A.


    Nobushi depends on a single thing: can your opponent reaction dodge the kick? If the answer is no, she is low S tier. If the answer is yes, she is high B tier, because in that case, she can still turtle relatively well.
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    In my opinion shes not C tier only because most people couldnt care less about eating her bleedings a bunch of times
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    Im right now fighting a gryphon and his heavy attacks seem to be faster than my lights, i may be wrong but cant find the data sheets anyway, you think you could bait something with hidden stance cancelling, but why would he care if he has undodgeable attacks and the other half of his attacks are faster than al of nobushi cancels, also nobushi needs to make the average enemy make 5 or 6 mistakes to kill him, while nobushi gets totally demolished after 2 or 3 errors, not to mention that she cant even cahrge her revenge in most of the ganks because she has no HP to make the revenge mechanic count, or what about when you dodge-light a top attack but it hits you anyway, or what about her light combo being so slow that you can dodge in the mid of it, , and maybe also wanna add the fact that his running openers can be dodged accidentally by any wonky animation, being so stupidly bad that you can start being dodge by a non dodging animation, if i could compile a video of how many times a raider weaving his normal heavy attack has dodged, and consequently puinished me for 1/3 my hp, and what about her kick sometimes landing and getting her next LIGHT attack blocked, for the love of God those are the times when i Alt f4 this game, is so ******ed
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    PK is more low A.


    Nobushi depends on a single thing: can your opponent reaction dodge the kick? If the answer is no, she is low S tier. If the answer is yes, she is high B tier, because in that case, she can still turtle relatively well.
    I think it depends, currently in 4vs 4 is maybe B- or C
    In duels I still think most of the time she is B+. But depends on the mixes the other can do and if the other can react/read to her lights and soft feints. Maybe lets say against an orochi or highlander (in my experience) she is a B+ or A-...maybe even against a normal(unga bunga) gryphon she is A-, they are so predictable it hurts.
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    Originally Posted by rocks.cl Go to original post
    Im right now fighting a gryphon and his heavy attacks seem to be faster than my lights, i may be wrong but cant find the data sheets anyway, you think you could bait something with hidden stance cancelling, but why would he care if he has undodgeable attacks and the other half of his attacks are faster than al of nobushi cancels, also nobushi needs to make the average enemy make 5 or 6 mistakes to kill him, while nobushi gets totally demolished after 2 or 3 errors, not to mention that she cant even cahrge her revenge in most of the ganks because she has no HP to make the revenge mechanic count, or what about when you dodge-light a top attack but it hits you anyway, or what about her light combo being so slow that you can dodge in the mid of it, , and maybe also wanna add the fact that his running openers can be dodged accidentally by any wonky animation, being so stupidly bad that you can start being dodge by a non dodging animation, if i could compile a video of how many times a raider weaving his normal heavy attack has dodged, and consequently puinished me for 1/3 my hp, and what about her kick sometimes landing and getting her next LIGHT attack blocked, for the love of God those are the times when i Alt f4 this game, is so ******ed
    is worth nothing man, just bait him , tough I can react to their dodge attack with another dodge attack of my Pk. But in your case just bait them, unga bungas learn slow to not be punished.
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    Why are you comparing the highest performance of nobushi against a braindead gryphon, under such circumstance everything is good, even communism
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1U2QzWS2kI&t=625s

    sorry for the spam but in here I show how predictable they are, consider is just a level 3 bot and I did it without markers, this is only against unga bungas gryphons. Maybe you can adapt the time of nobu dodge attack against his own dodge attacks. Also pk optimal punish after failed kick is the best of the entire game so it will vary for nobu.

    just skip to 23:03
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    That test is not valid since theres no delay against bots
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