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[AbuZnood]

Yep, let's turn this topic a buff request for pk : D

I think she must get dodge attacks starting chains with far better recoveries on miss (the gb vulnerability is fine). Maybe make them unblockable on bleeding target as well. And bleed cleanse must go.

The stab needs a nerf though. 38 damage for a guardbreak is insane, should be around 28.

Unblockables dodge attacks are available for 7.99 only !
Seriously I'm not against a little balancing of the gb inexchange for more pressure in her kit. The gb is absurd but she ll definitely need a little something without it. In fact we could consider giving her and other assassins a form of bash.

Pk could do a jumping kick a bit like shinobi, it confirm a bleeding stab but could wallsplat but she can cancel into gb. Same speed as nobu kick

Berserker make a 180 turn and give a right elbow hit in the noose, stunning for 2 sec, then an unblockable hit holding his two axes, dealing damages somewhere between his lights and his heavies

Orochi could do a jumping knee to the plexus and confirm a (double) top light, plus a nasty stam drain

How about that conq, bp, gryphon, warmo, warden,.....

[Goat_of_Vermund]

And I hope they ll buff them hard so that childish people like you who only enjoy cheap victory against unusable hero will get even more sick and make this forum alive for the next few years. Best regards and all.

Goat, can you imagine our Pk with freaking unblockable DODGE ATTACKS? the crying from the haters! OH MY GOD sweet sweet tears!

That sounds too much tough, With better recoveries and chainable attacks I think is all good. And to correct some things like some heroes blocking automatically her dodge attack on a correct read when you did on time and against the direction of the light used (hito).

about the gb punish 32 is my number, but I think unless they improve her chains and dodge attacks it must stay to compensate. Oh and the stamina buff is needed too. for most assassins in fact, so we can have something (no zerk , no glad, 10 points only to shaman)

I would trade that 10 damage points for better side dodge attacks, they are useless in 4v4. 28 is still very high for a long bleeding period, still counts as a lockdowns, and you may wallsplat before the third stab (I would let her dodge out from her own throw animation as well, that might be one of the worst ones).

Bleed cleanse also must go, and something must happen with Fiat Lux, Crossbow and Catapult.

[MrGrippz]

Zerk is fine in duels cuz he cant spam that much due to stamina restrictions. Zerk needs a bash opener like most assassins.

Zerk needs a buff not a nerf. Its not like he has opening lights with hyper armor....

*Stares at the fat a$s Shugoki...*

[MrGrippz]

As a rep 69 Zerk all he has is top unblockable pressure. Either dodge early on start up cuz his cancel to guardbreak is slow enough that you can recover after dodge to counter GB or option select parry with your zone.

[TrondurIGotu]

The issue isnt the attack spam on Zerk, its the sheer amount of hyper armor he has. No other hero in the game has hyper armor on unblockables, so why is he the exception. He is an assassin without a single aspect that makes him an assassin.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

And I hope they ll buff them hard so that childish people like you who only enjoy cheap victory against unusable hero will get even more sick and make this forum alive for the next few years. Best regards and all.

Zerk is fine in duels cuz he cant spam that much due to stamina restrictions. Zerk needs a bash opener like most assassins.

Zerk needs a buff not a nerf. Its not like he has opening lights with hyper armor....

*Stares at the fat a$s Shugoki...*

You can not really os zone them, a hyperarmored heavy will beat it. He is definetely the strongest assassin. It is a complete ******g nightmare to deal with him using other assassins. He doesn't need buffs.

Also, which assassin have a bash opener aside from glad zone and Shaman's headbutt? That is 2 out of 6. I assume Zerk bash should get a hyperarmor too.

[Sanguinius-IX-]

Berserker needs a Buff, and not a Nerf because of toxic and childish people who want to Nerf this hero to get cheap wins.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Berserker needs a Buff, and not a Nerf because of toxic and childish people who want to Nerf this hero to get cheap wins.

Very deep and intelligent post. So, what should be buffed exactly? Should the easily accessible unblockable top heavy finisher with hyperarmor with 400ms hyperarmored semi-softfeints be undodgable as well? Or should ge get a 500ms bash with hyperarmor?

[AbuZnood]

Very deep and intelligent post. So, what should be buffed exactly? Should the easily accessible unblockable top heavy finisher with hyperarmor with 400ms hyperarmored semi-softfeints be undodgable as well? Or should ge get a 500ms bash with hyperarmor?

It's just that you can't just take off zerk HA without any counterpart. Zerk HA is part of his gameplay like pk bleed. Removing it on his light would be like removing pk soft feint stab. I don't say he need a buff personnaly, but he definitely don't need a straight nerf either. He has a tiny healthpool and easy parry heavies. A bad berserker is one of the easiest matchup you can have. A good berserker one of the worst.
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[Sanguinius-IX-]

Very deep and intelligent post. So, what should be buffed exactly? Should the easily accessible unblockable top heavy finisher with hyperarmor with 400ms hyperarmored semi-softfeints be undodgable as well? Or should ge get a 500ms bash with hyperarmor?

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