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    Originally Posted by echolecter Go to original post
    But it's funny to see so many people become so attached to the story...
    You should consider checking out some of the lore channels on youtube. People who have searched out all the cutscenes, all the little details, and pieced them together.

    There's a LOT of story that goes on under the table, and is easy to miss if you're not digging for it.
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    Originally Posted by As1r0nimo Go to original post
    Cleaners burned people alive.
    Rikers fid the same.
    There are a lot of evidence and survivors.

    So, no. It's not fake news
    Infected? And how many?

    Rikers and Hyenas just trying to survive, built their own society, just not under your (SHD and fail gov) lead.

    Outcasts are seeking the justice.

    And how are you (prosecutor, jury, judge and executioner all rolled into one) differ from them?

    I've specially mentioned "I mean not SHD or JTF members." - they are soldiers and this is war, soldiers die at wars, they are ready for that and accepted the fact of their inevitable death at war.
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    @ licher.rus: Your attempts at mental acuity are falling way short of minimal requirements for army recruitment.)
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    Originally Posted by Licher.Rus Go to original post

    So, who is the real and only evil here?
    Originally Posted by Licher.Rus Go to original post
    Infected? And how many?

    Rikers and Hyenas just trying to survive, built their own society, just not under your (SHD and fail gov) lead.

    Outcasts are seeking the justice.

    And how are you (prosecutor, jury, judge and executioner all rolled into one) differ from them?
    SHD agents are not a rightful task force, but it doesn't mean that the opposing factions are not evil. Just free roaming lets you witness things like public executions. Like you said: jury, prosecutor, judge and executioner. So by your logic, if we don't differ from them, then they're evil too.

    You can't hide that behind an excuse like "they're just trying to survive and build something". You could easily make similar arguments for any given factions, SHD included. Something like "they're just trying to restore order, peace, freedom and justice". Nor can you say " they do some evil stuff because evil stuff was done to them first".
    You can try to play a game of "who's more evil", but as a good pal of mine often says: " Evil is Evil. Lesser, greater, middling… Makes no difference. The degree is arbitary. The definition’s blurred. If I’m to choose between one evil and another… I’d rather not choose at all".

    No, the SHD organization is not a rightful one and yes they perform evil actions but it doesn't absolve other factions of their evil deeds, SHD is not the only evil here, just one amongst many and probably one of the most rooted and pervasive.

    As to why we all run around killing people left and right, well sure, within the boundaries of the game, we pretty much do everything we're told like fricking drones. We're order followers and the fact that we don't have a voice or personalitie emphasizes that aspect very much. I don't like it at all, but I'm playing a video game, and if I want to progress that game, I have to follow certain rules. That's why personnally, I keep killing people left and right.
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    Public execution of who? JTF soldiers? And it's not just kill (as u do), this is actually execution after a judgment for their crimes made.

    "More or less... we all are equal" - no-no-no. This can be said only by that one, who is actually more evil, to paint himself white. It's the same as Hitler said "Hey, that mr. Fanz killed mr. Herbert, so we are equal!" - stupid, right?

    I never said given "enemies" are innocent and saints.
    But.
    Compared to SHD they are just nothing, non-existent.

    And actually their only crime is unwilling to knee before that fail gov, which brought the country to current state.
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    Originally Posted by Licher.Rus Go to original post
    Infected? And how many?

    Rikers and Hyenas just trying to survive, built their own society, just not under your (SHD and fail gov) lead.

    Outcasts are seeking the justice.

    And how are you (prosecutor, jury, judge and executioner all rolled into one) differ from them?

    I've specially mentioned "I mean not SHD or JTF members." - they are soldiers and this is war, soldiers die at wars, they are ready for that and accepted the fact of their inevitable death at war.
    I mean, did you ever tried to read/listen/watch th eevidence?
    Hyena simply kill some random folks just for fun. It's in the video.
    Outcasts - yeah. Manny also mentioned that. Same do terrorists (in their vision).
    Cleaners kill people without even checking their health. They just burn them. Conly had some issues where she spears people, but in the end - she is a former SHD agent.
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    Originally Posted by As1r0nimo Go to original post
    I mean, did you ever tried to read/listen/watch th eevidence?
    Hyena simply kill some random folks just for fun. It's in the video.
    Outcasts - yeah. Manny also mentioned that. Same do terrorists (in their vision).
    Cleaners kill people without even checking their health. They just burn them. Conly had some issues where she spears people, but in the end - she is a former SHD agent.
    I could ask the same from you.

    Random folks... who shoot on them and killed some hyena before? Such a random folks, I can see them everywhere (not)

    Outcasts were actually JAILED at the island, they were tortured there, JTF acted with them as with animals. And at the end they were just left to die there. Awesome!

    Cleaners burned INFECTED! Go play TD1 again. This infection has pretty visible signs. They just tried to protect their families from plague, when fail gov just did nothing.

    True sons - are former JTF soldiers, lead by man, who have seen a true nature of gov actions (just leave everyone behind) and who decided to change something.

    What else?
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    Both Faye and Keener were implying this.
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    Reading this thread tells me that OP has WAAAAY too much time on their hands.
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    Time to introduce Ol mach Donald - to make the story great again!
    ...joke!
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