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[The_Wanderer.]

Just curious to what people think on who needs what.

[Lord.Warden.]

- Lawbringer needs a viable opener and hyper armor on follow up heavies to trade.
- Gladiator needs a guaranteed light after his bash
- Conqueror needs to be able to feint heavies and his follow up lights being all the same speed even if he attacks on same side
- Shinobi needs an unblockable heavy attack and his heavies need to work like highlander's (Most of my friends have to lightly tap heavy to prevent accidentally going into range attack - that needs to be fixed where if you press heavy, it's normal heavy and if you hold heavy, it's ranged attack).
- Aramusha needs a viable opener
- Body count feat needs to be put back to the way it was before

[Goat_of_Vermund]

- Lawbringer needs a viable opener and hyper armor on follow up heavies to trade.
- Gladiator needs a guaranteed light after his bash
- Conqueror needs to be able to feint heavies and his follow up lights being all the same speed even if he attacks on same side
- Shinobi needs an unblockable heavy attack and his heavies need to work like highlander's (Most of my friends have to lightly tap heavy to prevent accidentally going into range attack - that needs to be fixed where if you press heavy, it's normal heavy and if you hold heavy, it's ranged attack).
- Aramusha needs a viable opener
- Body count feat needs to be put back to the way it was before

- Lawbringer doesn't need an outright buff. If he gets something, he needs nerfs too, his parry punishes are overpowered. That is not much of an issue since Lawbringer has no offense, on low level, people can't really consistently pull off spikes, and on high level, bash heroes rule the game anyway. But if he gets anything, that stupid impale needs a nerf as well.
- Conqueror is the top duelist, or top 3 at least. He needs a zone nerf, a bash stamina damage removal, maybe superior dodge nerf, and after that, maybe he can get buffs as well.
- Gladiator is totally S tier the way it is, he totally doesn't need any buffs. His zone is one of the most stupidly broken tools in the game, he has the top out of stamina game, and the best deflect. The only reason you don't see more of them succesfully is because they, for some reason, don't spam their broken zone in opponents' face, and resort to doing stupid stuff (to look honorable, I guess).


The actual list:

- Warden side lights need to be 500ms.
- PK needs a chainable dodge attack
- Raider needs... something. Hard to tell actually what, but he is lacking.
- Jörmungandr needs hard buffs, she went totally useless when CCU fixed the stamina system
- Aramusha probably needs unblockable heavy finishers, and maybe something from neutral.
- Shinobi needs a total rework, the kit is designed very stupidly.
- Hitokiri needs buffs, she is quite weak after the hyperarmor removal from the heavies.

[Knight_Raime]

- Lawbringer needs a viable opener and hyper armor on follow up heavies to trade.
- Gladiator needs a guaranteed light after his bash
- Conqueror needs to be able to feint heavies and his follow up lights being all the same speed even if he attacks on same side
- Shinobi needs an unblockable heavy attack and his heavies need to work like highlander's (Most of my friends have to lightly tap heavy to prevent accidentally going into range attack - that needs to be fixed where if you press heavy, it's normal heavy and if you hold heavy, it's ranged attack).
- Aramusha needs a viable opener
- Body count feat needs to be put back to the way it was before

1) Only place HA is going to help LB is on his top heavy finisher for group fights. His heavies are already not great tools in team fights for other reasons HA wouldn't help them. LB's biggest need is better chains.

2) Glad's bashes don't need to guarantee damage. They just need to be able to flow into the rest of his kit. Glad needs better kit flow in general.

3) These things would be helpful for conq but not really solve how week his chains are. He needs other changes too including nerfs.

4) Shinobi needs a new kit.

5) Aramusha has everything he needs in his kit already and it just needs to be moved around a bit.

6) Screw that. Body count is fine as is on what it does. Instead it just needs to be built into every hero's kit by default instead of it being a feat you equip.

[Knight_Raime]

It would be easier to make a list of heros who would be perfectly fine if they didn't receive any future updates. Over half of the roster needs to be touched for nerfs and buffs.

[King_of_Xibalba]

glad needing buffs?' give me a break...
people mastering him are a headache already, and I was glad main some time ago. He is really good at messing with people heads, only needs some flowing, but very little.
Conq is tier S turtle pfff

[The_Wanderer.]

In my opinion people who needs buffs or at least a little love are
Aramusha
Shinobi
Hito
Shugoki.
Orochi
Peacekeeper
Lb a little
Raider
Highlander
Jorm