Thick Blood and the Warden Y5S1 Patch 2.26.0 | Forums

[Justicator]

If the attackers have a Warmonger who knows what she is doing, then it is quite easy to win as attackers (unless one idiot in the attacker team wastes all the respawns your team has). It is really easy to infect an officer in a zone and force people away from a fight to capture said zone, and it is just as easy to do the same with the commander. As a defender, it is far less effective, the only thing you can use it for is buying time, the attackers can't lose progress by retreating for 15 seconds. Gryphon is just as bad for bleed heroes as Warden was before this was removed. But again, having someone more broken doesn't really mean it is not justified to remove this, especially since it is clear why did they do it now: they had a look around Warden. Not a very good look if they did not balance his idiotic lvl 1 and lvl 3 uniques (I can't recall a time where I have ever seen the latter in action).

Hopefully, they balance feats soon. Most of the og cast have very bad ones (excluding a few feats, like Rocksteady, which is quite broken).

While I do understand your reasoning it is backwards in my opinion.

In my opinion it doesn’t matter in which order they rebalance / replace broken feats, because any broken feat less is one broken feat less which is good in my book.

I agree, thick blood feat should have been removed and I also agree that the order in which they rebalance feats should not matter. I guess I am just pissed a bit due to the fact that it is obvious to everyone and their moms which feats NEED changing except to Ubisoft. While they take their sweet sweet SWEET time with changing obviously broken stuff, the players get to enjoy these broken mechanics that destroy all the fun. That may leave some people jaded (like it does me ATM).

[Gaser.]

Agree to disagree, multiple times I'll be "In position" when along comes a gank. Tonight for example 2 Peacekeepers and 2 Kenseis, no chance there even with another teammate. Since you seem to be such an opinionated feller maybe you'd care to share with the class how you'd deal with the bleed ganks that are now running around. Really, give some good advice, always wanting to learn.

All Bleed based heroes have terrible side liine pressure.

Pk is nothing without bleed and needs bleed to even get some pressure in from the side line. (not to mention pks mix up is highly interuptble and can even almost be fully negated by some heroes)

Shaman got only her bash which gives a lot of revenge and doesnt give her any bleed unless she managed to wall splat ya.

Nobushi has the only bash that gives her bleed but she profits the least from it in a active sense and her bash tracking as well as range are rather short.



The only non bleed based heroes that can apply bleed cant do it over normal ways and have to either deflect, parry the enemy.or active a feat with a long cooldown.



Then again the most important things are not to be solo in a gank to begin with, when you get solo ganked then its mostly just your team either being dead or your out of place for the current situation.


If you see a gank about to happen outside of braking that is larger then two people and the change of your team helping you is low then its most of the time better to leave that place and move to a better position where you got teammates nearby.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

If that two pks would have been two nuxias, would it make a difference? Beside dying a lot quicker I mean.

[TheRubyHero]

Ah yes one more of the post:

Hey guys I mainly used Thick Blood and now I have to suffer from the fact that it’s gone and I never really learned how to deal with bleed dmg and bleed based heroes.


There honestly shouldn’t be a feat that negates / lowers / slows a dmg type that is inferior and only can really be used profitability by 3 heroes.


The new feat ain’t even bad, you get 20 HP when you enter revenge for a tier 2 this is rather amazing.

If you get ganked by 3-4 people then that’s because of two things:

1: Your team lost a Team fight

2: You are out of position

In both cases your fault.

Honestly mate, can you shut up? It’s not that we don’t know how to deal with bleed heroes, it’s the fact that it’s a feat that we used that gambled on whether an opponent used a bleed character. It was simply to make fights easier. Especially when being ganked by a Peacekeeper and a Shaman. The feat was slightly overpowered but it still should be in the game. You discount everyone because you act superior to everyone else. As far as I’m concerned, all you have done to conversations is be more toxic than helpful. Please just stop trying to to degrade players. Remember, we are taking on a general basis, which includes all skill levels. This in turn requires the thoughts of all. Fighting a pk/shaman combo or nobu/shaman is an extreme nuisance. But I’m sure you’ll still try to find a way to downgrade the people who are talking civilized instead of being toxic towards one another.

[Gaser.]

Honestly mate, can you shut up? It’s not that we don’t know how to deal with bleed heroes, it’s the fact that it’s a feat that we used that gambled on whether an opponent used a bleed character. It was simply to make fights easier. Especially when being ganked by a Peacekeeper and a Shaman. The feat was slightly overpowered but it still should be in the game. You discount everyone because you act superior to everyone else. As far as I’m concerned, all you have done to conversations is be more toxic than helpful. Please just stop trying to to degrade players. Remember, we are taking on a general basis, which includes all skill levels. This in turn requires the thoughts of all. Fighting a pk/shaman combo or nobu/shaman is an extreme nuisance. But I’m sure you’ll still try to find a way to downgrade the people who are talking civilized instead of being toxic towards one another.

Gambling on the thing that the enemy has bleed or not doesn’t make a feat that messes with it balanced in anyway what so ever and if you think that makes it balance then your view on it is honestly terrible and stupid.



Also talking about all skill levels does not matter at all, the only skill levels that should be balanced around is high level and comp and that pretty much goes for any fighting game.

I honestly could not care less if you see me as toxic.

Most of the community are just weak idiots that take the next best out of jail card so they don’t have to face the fact that they made mistakes or have to improve.


Anyone in high rank and comp already said that this feat is beyond fixing and a feat that messes with bleed should not exist.

Now it’s either adapt, leave or join the sad beings at the for honor rant sub reddit.

[Azulra_1]

In all honesty if I’m fighting a Shaman they can’t really rely on bleed spamming me just so they can bite me constantly because if she even manages to bleed me I just stop attacking so if she guard breaks me I can just counter-guard break or if she tries biting me I can just dodge her. Last night I was being double-teamed by a Centurion and a Shaman and after the Shaman got bleed off she kept trying to jump on me to bite my neck and she failed 4-5 times in a row and kept trying it until she realized that I was no longer bleeding.

[MrBdur]

Honestly mate, can you shut up? It’s not that we don’t know how to deal with bleed heroes, it’s the fact that it’s a feat that we used that gambled on whether an opponent used a bleed character. It was simply to make fights easier. Especially when being ganked by a Peacekeeper and a Shaman. The feat was slightly overpowered but it still should be in the game. You discount everyone because you act superior to everyone else. As far as I’m concerned, all you have done to conversations is be more toxic than helpful. Please just stop trying to to degrade players. Remember, we are taking on a general basis, which includes all skill levels. This in turn requires the thoughts of all. Fighting a pk/shaman combo or nobu/shaman is an extreme nuisance. But I’m sure you’ll still try to find a way to downgrade the people who are talking civilized instead of being toxic towards one another.

"I suck so the game should be changed to be easier for me."

That's you bud.

How about YOU shut up and take some notes from players who are obviously more experienced with the game. You might learn something useful.