The bashes in general are a very controversial thing since day 1. Conq, Warlord and Black Prior are considered 3 of the strongest characters because of there bash and the mixupthe bash create. But where exactly is the problem? Easy stamina and health damage that leave you with frame disadvantage, can be delayed to catch dodges or guard break the dodges. Many disagree and believe the bashes are fine and others believe are stupidly op. But there's one bash that no one complain about and is my idea for a possible fix and in my opinion is match with what Ubi try to achieve with the more read base game. Shugokis headbutt, his bash in my opion need to implement to all characters but with unparryable, uninterruptible light attack from all sides and the bash create the stun effect but the light can be block or dodge from defender and the first thing to come in everyones mind is that this is gonna make the bashes useless but here is where the mix-up come, after bash you can go at once for an undodgable heavy to catch the possible dodge or feint to guarf break, all that if the bash hit, if not then is unpunishable even from dodge attack but you are now to frame disadvantage and is opponents turn. This is my idea. With this way you create a fair guessing game for both sides. Tell me your opinion about this and maybe your ideas.