Need some advice with the smg | Forums

[Saringassu]

I don't really like situational builds and I find skill builds to be like that. With the EMP and all...

Anyway, I am having a great time with SMG with memento backpack. Having good fun. I decided on it when I got bored of AR.

But there are situations where enemies are in places where I can't reach them and are far away. SMG performance falls dramatically. My secondary is the exotic shotgun that does status effect, in case I run into heroic rogues.

Anyone running SMG, who ran into similar situations, what do you usually do? Just spray and hope for the best?

[As1r0nimo]

For a quick CC try Banshee pulse from Gunner spec.
And for secondary weapon - any brutal mmr, like m700, .308 or m41. Or if you don't use exotic smg, use Nemesis for long range situations

[Sircowdog1]

It's the main weakness of all SMGs.

You can mitigate a lot of it by stacking optimal range and accuracy. Optimal range will make you hit harder at longer ranges, and accuracy will shrink the bullet spread. You can use talents like "Braced" for a massive boost.

You could also rely on a specialization weapon for those situations. The Gunner mini-gun is pretty good at long range. And the sharpshooter 50cal sniper is perfect for those situations too. Firewall....eh...not so much. ;D

[BrokenFire319]

It's the main weakness of all SMGs.

You can mitigate a lot of it by stacking optimal range and accuracy. Optimal range will make you hit harder at longer ranges, and accuracy will shrink the bullet spread. You can use talents like "Braced" for a massive boost.

You could also rely on a specialization weapon for those situations. The Gunner mini-gun is pretty good at long range. And the sharpshooter 50cal sniper is perfect for those situations too. Firewall....eh...not so much. ;D

Interesting ideas about range and accuracy for SMGs. I will have to give those a try.

For long range and hiding enemies, I also enjoy the grenade launcher and the crossbow. Grenades will get them out of cover and the incindiary grenades are even better.

[Boothen]

Imagine how much fun we could have if they allowed us to have the same SMG that the enemies carry. You know, the one that allows them to strip all your 1.9M armour in a single shot from outside the range of your MMR..

[As1r0nimo]

Imagine how much fun we could have if they allowed us to have the same SMG that the enemies carry. You know, the one that allows them to strip all your 1.9M armour in a single shot from outside the range of your MMR..

Oh, please. Can you just stop posting that BS already????
There are no issues with shotguns and SMGs from NPC. Nothing at all.
Post a video where you've been one shoted with a shotgun or SMG on heroic with 1 million armor at least. Or just shut up.

[Aced_100]

The Safety Distance SMG has a great talent.

Perfect Outsider - After killing an enemy, gain 125% optimal range and +125% accuracy for 10 seconds.

[Saringassu]

Thanks. I think I'm going to give optimal range mods a try.

The Safety Distance SMG has a great talent.

Perfect Outsider - After killing an enemy, gain 125% optimal range and +125% accuracy for 10 seconds.

Currently using that SMG. It's really good. But gotta have a kill in first. I really wish the Perfect Outsider resets after every kills. That would be insane.

[Sircowdog1]

Imagine how much fun we could have if they allowed us to have the same SMG that the enemies carry. You know, the one that allows them to strip all your 1.9M armour in a single shot from outside the range of your MMR..

Why tho? We have better abilities than just raw range and accuracy. If you want that, then go pick up an all red AR or Rifle build.

[Solkard]

Question is why are you running a SMG (short range weapon) with a shogtun (short rang weapon)? Not only are you handicapping yourself against long range enemies, it's redundant. Pick one as your short range main and then use something that can engage at long range for your secondary.