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  1. #11
    Almost every character has the ability to combo from their dodge attacks so if you’re gonna whine and complain about that then you shouldn’t be playing this game.
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  2. #12
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    Originally Posted by BarryAllenOP Go to original post
    his damage is way to high. has more stamina than anybody. and can combo out of his dodge attack. Everything about him is broken
    All of his dmg is generalist besides his kick being 2 dmg higher then other combo finishing bash that give a heavy.

    The ability to combo out of a dodge attack ain’t broken it’s only broken when the dodge is to strong on its own. (It’s the same as Kensei in that it needs drastically reduced I frames.)
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    Gryphon has easier access to high damage when compared to most other heroes, I don't think that can be debated. Like, when you look at typical player habits and the options available to other heroes, Gryphon does stand out as someone who needs to do less to get as much or more. Frame advantage makes his offense very oppressive, he has more ways to start offense than most heroes, and he has more ways to vary his chains. Because of the variety it's also difficult to get a "return to neutral" result from responding to his offense. You either get it right and counter him, or you get it wrong and receive a lot of damage, and the odds are usually in his favour because he has more ways to attack you than you have to counter him.

    I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a nerf even if that's not the right solution.
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    Jazz, just letting you know that about half of the hero roster have about as many offense openers as Gryphon does so that part is actually wrong.
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    Originally Posted by Azulra_1 Go to original post
    Jazz, just letting you know that about half of the hero roster have about as many offense openers as Gryphon does so that part is actually wrong.
    From what I recall, his bash from neutral puts him one option in front of most, specifically in the way that it is not a counter-attack. For example, Lawbringer's shove is only viable as a counter-attack from neutral.
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  6. #16
    man.... look at all the Gryphon fanboys in here. You twinks need to calm down.

    Gryphons main issue is that his stamina consumption needs to be higher for his kick. He suffers from seeming OP for the same reason the Centurion was really broken for those first 2 years. These maps are actually not open... fighting players takes place in spaces with 4 people most of the time in a confined room or hallway or access point. He boxes you in to easily and can spam after he has you in the box.
    As Aramusha my full block can disrupt him, and I can counter kick him back away, but even then, it because an issue of dealing with that double tap into kick on the counter on his side to reset the fight into the corner... so, this hero, much like pretty much all heroes, is that they need their stamina consumption turned up, so that a player has to utilize his resources more.

    This could also be done by making him lose more stamina for being blocked or being parried, Force the player to think before spamming.

    I will say that he is annoying though. I actually have played very little PVP this season due to him being released.
    I LOVE the hero.
    But there are so many of them in matches that it really is game breaking and annoying to put up with. So I am waiting for them to do something about him.
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    Originally Posted by FriendlyZinogre Go to original post
    I love how non-specific these suggestions are. If you think something needs a nerf, explain why. "He's broken AF" is an opinion with no supporting evidence. If you don't want to sound like a child throwing a tantrum because he lost his game, give examples and evidence supporting your claim.

    If you don't have any, then your claim is invalid. I agree with DeeFautBoi34, go into training and PRACTICE instead of *****ing about every character you don't like.

    For the record, I don't even have Gryphon unlocked, just so you know I'm not biased as a Gryphon main.
    He is broken. What’s wrong is a guaranteed light AND an undodgeable light after which for most people is unreactable. Also his bashes and kicks barely take stamina so they can spam it the whole fight. If they took down the damage of the heavy after the kick and had the bash and kick take more stam he would still be good but not broken.
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  8. #18

    Indeed

    GRYPHON IS SO ******G BROKEN, nerf him OMGÅENDE. He ruins the game and should not exist. GET RID OF GRYPHON.
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  9. #19

    Agreeeeeedf

    Gryphon is so broken and shoulod just not exist ion the game, i hate gryphon and it makes the game worser please remove gryphonj from the game. Or atleast make him disabled kid,
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