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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by Riflemania Go to original post
    It's just another weapon, there is plenty of weapons in the game that do just as good, if not even better.....and even if they don't it would be very small marginable difference.

    Can't understand this obsession with the EB and other stuff locked behind a raid.
    No idea. Even the comments here. Selling it via premium credits is no more P2W than the outfits they sell are.

    If some collector wants to pay for the privilege of not doing the raid multiple times to maybe get one, I say let them. Ravenous, Regulus, and Big Horn too.
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    Originally Posted by TimesLostArc Go to original post
    I saw someone here say "DPS build". That term can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. I have seen people come in with a total rainbow "DPS build". Some people think their skill builds are DPS builds(which to be fair is not completely inaccurate).

    To anyone wanting to do the raid and go into LFG. May I as a simple plebian offer a few guidelines on what a Raid DPS build is.

    Pretty much it is all Weapon Damage major Attribute Rolls with Crit Chance/Crit Damage placed on it. You can go for headshot damage, but having as close to near 60% Crit Hit Chance with relatively high Crit Hit damage is important.

    The brand set pieces need to be the following. With certain items far better than others:

    1.) 3 piece providence(Alternative 2 or 3 piece Sokolov with SMG's)
    2.) Foxes Prayers For Rifles and Damage to targets out of cover
    3.) 1 pc Grupo Sombra for Crit Damage
    4.) An last item that can be a number of alternative items like either a single piece of Ceska for Added Crit Chance, a set of Contractor's Gloves for LMG use and damage to armor, a Coyote's mask for group bonus crit attributes, a single piece of fenris for AR Damage, or a single piece of Walker and Harris for all around bonus weapon damage
    5.) Chest and Backpack with the following skills: (Chest: Glass Cannon, Obliterate, Focus) (Backpack: Vigilance, Composure, Concussion)

    That is a typical DPS build. I would strongly urge people to use Obliterate over Glass cannon in Iron Horse.

    Some people love Striker. I have heard that on a number of bosses that Striker with Sleipnir/Burnout is really strong. I personally don't see how the gear set is that powerful, but I can guess the weapon handling and increased rate of fire compensate along with the stacks to offset the loss of crit damage. Still, I can't argue with consistent results from people that I raid with that use this.

    Negotiator's Dilemma is good, but not recommended because people still find new glitches with it and the raid that cause things to crash. I would say unless you want to be that guy that finds new ways to crash the raid; don't use it.

    Hunter's Fury can work great in fights where you have to kill adds at a door in close proximity. It is a much better than the combo of Intimidate + Adrenalin Rush. Those two are terrible in the raid, because they often don't help in the boss damage phases. Also leave the memento off your builds in the raid. It is a great item, but it is only strong when you can get all the trophies for yourself. Having to split kills amongst 8 people can allow its utility to wane.

    I still stand by my criticism that the idea of relying on outside proprietary technology to assemble pick up groups is a bad idea. Good luck those that decide to go Pickup LFG, you will likely need it.
    And this is WHY the Trophy counts shows less than 5% of PS4 players have completed.

    People don't want to be told how to play.

    We want to play our way, ALL content.

    And it isn't P2W buying it.

    Eagle Bearer/Big Horn or any other exotic, since they are limited to 1 Weapon/1 Armor do nothing to change the game.

    I don't see WHY you all think this/that. It's just an AR with a "meh" set of talents.

    And really, since the game is practically DEAD on it's feet, what does it matter to you who has what for gear/weapons??

    Oh right, you "earned" it the hard way because you're HC, and got hours to waste online in a "game/hobby".

    Others don't.

    So IMO, put the weapons/armors/all exotics in the Store.

    They change nothing in game, and are not "InstaGib" items.

    As stated, Pre Order got a "Great" Shotgun for starting out, yet nobody complained.

    Why complain about this???

    It's just a game. It's not real life.

    JMO!
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Koerperich Go to original post
    And this is WHY the Trophy counts shows less than 5% of PS4 players have completed.

    People don't want to be told how to play.

    We want to play our way, ALL content.

    And it isn't P2W buying it.

    Eagle Bearer/Big Horn or any other exotic, since they are limited to 1 Weapon/1 Armor do nothing to change the game.

    I don't see WHY you all think this/that. It's just an AR with a "meh" set of talents.

    And really, since the game is practically DEAD on it's feet, what does it matter to you who has what for gear/weapons??

    Oh right, you "earned" it the hard way because you're HC, and got hours to waste online in a "game/hobby".

    Others don't.

    So IMO, put the weapons/armors/all exotics in the Store.

    They change nothing in game, and are not "InstaGib" items.

    As stated, Pre Order got a "Great" Shotgun for starting out, yet nobody complained.

    Why complain about this???

    It's just a game. It's not real life.

    JMO!
    Is just a game,does not change your life if you have or not EB, so adapt to the game or go away.

    Game are becoming more and more easy, flat, boring, because people like you that want play watching a film and want that all game goes around their time and desire.

    NO.

    Game should never be far all, game has to be with locked weapon amd armour, should be challenging and ask for a good "work" on.

    I have no time to raid, i don't have EB, BUT this Is what a game should do.

    Reward for play and not for buy.
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Koerperich Go to original post
    And this is WHY the Trophy counts shows less than 5% of PS4 players have completed.

    People don't want to be told how to play.

    We want to play our way, ALL content.

    And it isn't P2W buying it.

    Eagle Bearer/Big Horn or any other exotic, since they are limited to 1 Weapon/1 Armor do nothing to change the game.

    I don't see WHY you all think this/that. It's just an AR with a "meh" set of talents.

    And really, since the game is practically DEAD on it's feet, what does it matter to you who has what for gear/weapons??

    Oh right, you "earned" it the hard way because you're HC, and got hours to waste online in a "game/hobby".

    Others don't.

    So IMO, put the weapons/armors/all exotics in the Store.

    They change nothing in game, and are not "InstaGib" items.

    As stated, Pre Order got a "Great" Shotgun for starting out, yet nobody complained.

    Why complain about this???

    It's just a game. It's not real life.

    JMO!
    As much as I agree with you, and I really do, you’re fighting a battle that’s already lost. That’s why I don’t argue about it anymore because when it comes to the Eagle Bearer and Big Horn, the devs don’t listen and the HCs will simply tell you to get good.

    It is what it is.
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Koerperich Go to original post
    And this is WHY the Trophy counts shows less than 5% of PS4 players have completed.

    People don't want to be told how to play.

    We want to play our way, ALL content.

    And it isn't P2W buying it.

    Eagle Bearer/Big Horn or any other exotic, since they are limited to 1 Weapon/1 Armor do nothing to change the game.

    I don't see WHY you all think this/that. It's just an AR with a "meh" set of talents.

    And really, since the game is practically DEAD on it's feet, what does it matter to you who has what for gear/weapons??

    Oh right, you "earned" it the hard way because you're HC, and got hours to waste online in a "game/hobby".

    Others don't.

    So IMO, put the weapons/armors/all exotics in the Store.

    They change nothing in game, and are not "InstaGib" items.

    As stated, Pre Order got a "Great" Shotgun for starting out, yet nobody complained.

    Why complain about this???

    It's just a game. It's not real life.

    JMO!
    It's not being told how to play as you claim, but if you want to play the role of the entitled, stubborn brat then keep looking at it this way. He forgot to mention spotter will work as well, so there are several talent options that are suggested in order to be successful. You can whine and act as if you are being told exactly what to do, or you can look at it as if people whom have had success are offering you helpful advice that you can either take or ignore. If you have time to read the forums and post you have time to watch a twenty minute video on how to put together a build and learn the mechanics of the raid. Life's not fair, so you shouldn't be entitled to get whatever you want just because you believe you should. It's people like you that buy championship trophies for their kid despite the fact that they spent the year hiding in left field picking dandelions on the last place team.
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    It's still baffling that some players feel some sort of entitlement that exclusive item acquisition needs to be changed to tailor to their limitations of gaming. If everyone had their way, everyone would have everything in every single game. Devs wouldn't provide any form of unique challenge & corresponding rewards that only the most dedicated or skilled could earn & feel good about. I've missed out on items in all sorts of games at various times for various reasons, but I don't gripe & moan about things must be changed just because as an individual I was unable to obtain said exclusive item. You can tell those that have zero care about tiered rewards, especially when they start throwing the "pay to unlock" concept around. Disgraceful & selfish.

    Yeah let's make the EB a purchasable exotic, a good ol middle finger to those within the past few months whom finally through much effort & stress, managed to join a raid group & get it. People whom felt the same way but as of recent got it, make them feel like their whole strive for it was pointless. As for the rest of us that earned it a long time ago, yeah give us the feeling that there's no point in ever doing unique (and not initially personally appealing) game modes ever again. Strip away one aspect game devs use to get more players to try their newer content/activities, that players otherwise wouldn't bother dipping into.

    If a D3 does come someday, they should humor those specific fools & make all unlocks super easy. All patches, backpack trophies, exotics, etc so easy to unlock that someone playing story or normal difficulty can get everything within a week of gameplay. Let's give everyone a taste of what it's like to take the challenge & fun out of activity & difficulty exclusive unlocks, just where all unlocks are tailored to the most limited & primal gaming capabilities.
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    Well if they want to change Eagle bearer do the same for the pvp based stuff, i do not mind Eagle Bearer and other Raid only gear is locked in there, same as Yahl gear and such in PVP however if they want to unlock items in one area should do it in all area's, got my bighorn a few weeks back from finally getting a clan that is active with legendary and doing Dark Hours it is just a question of what is needed for the different bosses and make a loadout for it, and the whole my playstyle is different and i do not want to change it, okay then so you made your point known you want items thrown at you and not willing to put in the extra effort to help your team out in a raid.

    People wanting to throw money at a problem just shows they just want items with minimal effort and not willing to work for it finding a clan to raid with depending on how active you are is not that hard, i feel like items i actually worked for seem to mean the most for me and also makes me excited to finally getting the item i farmed for, in the clan i am playing with we have guys dropping the EB for the rest of us if they have it already, and even guy in random raid just practicing gave up his to one in the raid because he was just trying to get familiar with the raid again before applying to a clan to raid again.
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    Originally Posted by Btc36 Go to original post
    Ubisoft should make a option to purchase this Exotic weapon, as a add on content. The other option would be they can also lock it behind the Legendary missions.
    Absolutely not.

    The Eagle Bearer is already a nightmare to fight against in the DZ. If this weapon became a purchasable, there would be no diversity in the DZ. Just abut everyone would run EB with shields.
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    EB just should have better chances to drop.

    Running that TRASH raids over and over again only for this - just nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by matta3310 Go to original post
    IHe forgot to mention spotter will work as well, so there are several talent options that are suggested in order to be successful.
    Yeah, I thought I missed one(Spotter) or 2. I remembered that Overwatch was also useful in groups of 8 as well.

    There are quite a few useful talents. Some people find new effective ones every day.
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