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  1. #21
    Okay the kick feint left my mind while i was typing that, for that I apologize.

    As for highlander in 4s, he isnt good. Ive played him. I know he isnt. If light light heavy is consistently working for you then you arent in a high skill bracket, Youre asking for a parry, deflect, what have you.

    As I said about heavy speed, OPENER heavies were 1000ms. Finisher heavies are 600ms. I think they should be at least 700ms to make more sense as i believe the parry timing of them and lights overlap.

    The only reason people seem to complain about highlander is LLH spam, Thats relevant for lower skill brackets only, and his bashes giving a 30dmg punish. Even though theyre slow and completely redactable and as i keep saying, you can dodge on kick timing and roll from the grab on reaction. In 4s they feed a ton of revenge and if one teammate hits them at all after you bash then your heavy is no longer guaranteed. If the kick is guaranteed in anyway thats because the highlander was dodging and catching you in recoveries, with the ccu changes this is a high risk high reward playstyle unless youre using various "tech" he has, and even then theres considerable risk.
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  2. #22
    If ur dropping kicks as a Highlander in a gank...ur enemy is faster in revenge than u cry for help. His LLH combo is only so strong bc u cant react or block his 2nd light. Then his heavy is coming and u get hit by it bc u were just trying to handle his 2nd light. The animation should be work on...facts. And about the damage...30 is his max damage. Kensei, Raider all got more than HL. (I know it’s only in the combo finisher but it is still more) So don’t tell me it should be downed to 27...this is stupid. Kensei deals for his soft feint to heavy 32 damage?!?! Nobu does 35 on her 2nd Heavy?!? I think if u nerf or change his 2nd light he is less frustrating to play against (in 4vs4). In 1vs1 he is kinda fine and you have to play him good.
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  3. #23
    Originally Posted by d_anny25 Go to original post
    If ur dropping kicks as a Highlander in a gank...ur enemy is faster in revenge than u cry for help. His LLH combo is only so strong bc u cant react or block his 2nd light. Then his heavy is coming and u get hit by it bc u were just trying to handle his 2nd light. The animation should be work on...facts. And about the damage...30 is his max damage. Kensei, Raider all got more than HL. (I know it’s only in the combo finisher but it is still more) So don’t tell me it should be downed to 27...this is stupid. Kensei deals for his soft feint to heavy 32 damage?!?! Nobu does 35 on her 2nd Heavy?!? I think if u nerf or change his 2nd light he is less frustrating to play against (in 4vs4). In 1vs1 he is kinda fine and you have to play him good.
    Nobushi does not do 35dam it stacks with her bleed making it seem like its 35dam. It's actually 29dam heavy finisher and what if Kenshi does 32dam. He is a Vanguard! Vanguards are meant to do big damage. Also nerfing his light spam sound good in opinion since generally light spam puts a disadvantage on console. Also highlander needs a nerf but also a rework including.

    I thought For Honor was trying to make this game more offensive than defensive! Guess I was wrong. They got shugoki know all we have to do is get Kenshi and Highlander!
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  4. #24
    Nobushi does not do 35dam it stacks with her bleed making it seem like its 35dam. It's actually 29dam heavy finisher and what if Kenshi does 32dam.
    If I know it right Nobushi actually deals 35 dmg. But only against bleeding opponents She has a unique mechanics which makes her deal more dmg against bleeding opponents. So, her heavy finishers deal 29 dmg normally, but against a bleeding enemy the damage gets magnified to 35. Quite powerful.
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  5. #25
    Doesnt matter if others can get 32 or 35 on heavy. Should gryphon dmg after kick raise because of that? The problem is when you have that along with the rest of the kit. HL LLH are as fast as PK LLH combo. Bad bashes? At least he has one. You can ledge someone with the kick having 1 HP and get insta kill on other player. I see him strong. Everyone is abusing HL these days. If there wasnt a event and pp trying to get some weapons sets for other heroes i think we will see even more on matches. I know how toxic pp are and i dont see any Nuxia around. She gets a light parry on Dodge attack. Easier to abuse gryphon right? Bash light finisher undogeable. And since i dont think she or others gets a buff to be on par. Its easy to ask for some small nerfs. But seriously any assassin will kill for the perks feats HL has.
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  6. #26
    Originally Posted by wolfocezosu Go to original post
    Doesnt matter if others can get 32 or 35 on heavy. Should gryphon dmg after kick raise because of that? The problem is when you have that along with the rest of the kit. HL LLH are as fast as PK LLH combo. Bad bashes? At least he has one. You can ledge someone with the kick having 1 HP and get insta kill on other player. I see him strong. Everyone is abusing HL these days. If there wasnt a event and pp trying to get some weapons sets for other heroes i think we will see even more on matches. I know how toxic pp are and i dont see any Nuxia around. She gets a light parry on Dodge attack. Easier to abuse gryphon right? Bash light finisher undogeable. And since i dont think she or others gets a buff to be on par. Its easy to ask for some small nerfs. But seriously any assassin will kill for the perks feats HL has.
    Personally too me Highlander is meant to be a heavy hitter not a light spammer. Sure HL attack speed could be the same as a assassin but the differences is the speed and the ability of the chain. Highlander chain is fast and hardly reactable including the finsher heavy after light to light to heavy. Also it has hyper armor so even if you dodge and try to get a hit off he will still have the better trade damage. Highlander is a abuser and for lights and chains with HA to be that faster than assassin's makes it so unnecessary. Assassins are the worst type of heros in the game that's why people complain about heros other than assassin's.

    I dislike the fact that you have to play so defensive against a character it's kinda stupid. I don't know why they said they wanted the game to be less defensive when we got to deal with HA light spamming crush-counter HL. But that's how a fighting game is.
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  7. #27
    No need to apologize tho. Not here to argue with anyone just want to chat about the game i like and ive been playing the last 2 years the most. Everyone can mistake sometimes. Anyone plays on ps4 to duel and learn/practise sometime? I played duels a lot and know 80% of players only now how to gank and not even good at that. I was Diamond V with PK when everyone was using LB before the nerf and CCU. Stop playing ranked cuz dont like the meta season pick and pp cant handle a fair loss. Now i just play for daily orders to save steel for event executions and emotes. But careful Im a spammer based on my inbox. But 2 top heavys after GB OOS or 1 light parry kill was skill lol. I really hate PP how bought the horn emote for shugo conqueror or things like that. Not going to buy for Nuxia thats for sure. Maybe they wont have a chance to use It once and they know.
    Dont know how to quote from my phone. xD
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    Highlander should get Reworked

    I Also hate the lightspamming on Highlander. I don't care if it is the fastest lights in the game. But I dislike that his light attacks and chain has hyper armor. People abuse his kit a lot when it comes to 4v4s . No one tries to learn how to use highlander and people just spam is lights because they know they can't get interrupted and he is very fast when it comes to lights. I generally think that his light attacks need to be nerf by taking away his backing up lights and don't give it Hyper Armor. But improve his ZONE and running speed. I mean he has buff legs soooooooooo. Other than that I say he's fine. Maybe you should turn down the damage for him a little bit but overall he's fine in my opinion. People usually say he sucks but he is really good in 1v1s and he's good for 4v4s. BELIEVE ME that crush counter really does help. But I dislike playing against him since all there are is spammers.
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  9. #29
    You can get a gb, but you have to time it right. Its similar to warlord's headbutt.
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  10. #30
    Originally Posted by TrondurIGotu Go to original post
    You can get a gb, but you have to time it right. Its similar to warlord's headbutt.
    Why do I have to time a guardbreak? He should get punish after I dodge his grab or kick. He needs a longer recovery time it's stupid.

    He needs his light spamming to be nerf but his zone and heavys need improvement.

    Why does he need HA on chain attacks take it out. It makes no sense to give HL HA on lights especially if it's the fastest lights in the game. His crush-counter is to reliable I'm not complaining but why does it do 20dam but Pks and Shinobi deflect do no damage like what?
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