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[MastlyCJ]

You cant make highalnder slower, he'll be back to how he was pre-ccu and that will kill the character. nerf the hyper armor on the mid chain light and dont touch anything else. His heavies are already some of the slowest in the game

Oh yeah my bad then let's fix:

Fix Crush-counter since its spammable (only top like Wardens)

Frame Disadvantage on lights and no longer has Hyperarmor on them.

Fix backingup lights

He is meant to be a fast hard hitting character not a light spammer this is why I suggested these ideas.

[Saint_YeetsXB]

Crushing counter is fine in all directions, especially if his back step light is taken away. Remember valk, warlord, black prior, and to a smaller extent shaolin all have multi directional crushing counters. Warden only has it on the top because he specifically uses a defensive half sword technique for hit top light, highlander uses it in all directions.

His defensive and offensive lights already have frame disadvantage on them. you never see this because his defensive lights are part of a longer chain so you can get around this frame disadvantage just like a lot of other characters have. His offensive lights are fast yes, 400ms lights with 300ms indicators but he is unable to block or parry in this state and the lights only deal 9 dmg i believe while also leaving him frame disadvantaged. If highlander goes for a kick after hitting someone with an offensive stance light, the kick can be beaten out by a 500ms light every time.

Im a rep 70 highlander and mainly a duelist player so i really hate the idea of everyone wanting to nerf him so much, he does have a broken 500ms hyper armor light but other than that the rest of him is sub par at best. it takes a lot of effort and predictions to play highlander in upper tier play. Over half the characters in the game counter him at this point just because they have a dodge attack. He already has assassin hp at 125, doesnt get a heavy on gb and his 50/50 mix up in offensive stance can be safely rolled from every time on reaction with nothing highlander can do about it.

[MastlyCJ]

Crushing counter is fine in all directions, especially if his back step light is taken away. Remember valk, warlord, black prior, and to a smaller extent shaolin all have multi directional crushing counters. Warden only has it on the top because he specifically uses a defensive half sword technique for hit top light, highlander uses it in all directions.

His defensive and offensive lights already have frame disadvantage on them. you never see this because his defensive lights are part of a longer chain so you can get around this frame disadvantage just like a lot of other characters have. His offensive lights are fast yes, 400ms lights with 300ms indicators but he is unable to block or parry in this state and the lights only deal 9 dmg i believe while also leaving him frame disadvantaged. If highlander goes for a kick after hitting someone with an offensive stance light, the kick can be beaten out by a 500ms light every time.

Im a rep 70 highlander and mainly a duelist player so i really hate the idea of everyone wanting to nerf him so much, he does have a broken 500ms hyper armor light but other than that the rest of him is sub par at best. it takes a lot of effort and predictions to play highlander in upper tier play. Over half the characters in the game counter him at this point just because they have a dodge attack. He already has assassin hp at 125, doesnt get a heavy on gb and his 50/50 mix up in offensive stance can be safely rolled from every time on reaction with nothing highlander can do about it.

Ok your a 70rep highlander. Honestly people who play highlander always say he doesn't need a nerf due to the fact that you don't want his playstyle to be affected. But the fact that console players have a disadvantage against HL due to lack of fps and ccu is insane. Also when ever I mention a nerf or rework for HL almost every person who plays or main HL goes insane saying he doesn't need a nerf. One say he needs a buff and I was so confused. Anyway I literally ask for nerf on his lights due to lack of fps but I guess I'm asking too much. RIGHT.

[Gaser.]

Ok your a 70rep highlander. Honestly people who play highlander always say he doesn't need a nerf due to the fact that you don't want his playstyle to be affected. But the fact that console players have a disadvantage against HL due to lack of fps and ccu is insane. Also when ever I mention a nerf or rework for HL almost every person who plays or main HL goes insane saying he doesn't need a nerf. One say he needs a buff and I was so confused. Anyway I literally ask for nerf on his lights due to lack of fps but I guess I'm asking too much. RIGHT.

infact you asking for to much, balance is done after pc standard, there are no and will be no balance changes intended for console.

[MastlyCJ]

infact you asking for to much, balance is done after pc standard, there are no and will be no balance changes intended for console.

Bro you main or choose HL as a 70rep. You don't want him to get a nerf. BUT I bet if I would ask the Community they would have say yes. HL lights needs a nerf. Like again fastest lights that has frame advantage, HA, and chain attack. This should literally be given to LAWBRINGER. I literally have to parry the light before the red indicator starts to appear. That's INSANE. Please just because you adapted to game and got good at it doesn't mean others can. HL is a struggled your to experienced to see that.

[Saint_YeetsXB]

Youre very misinformed about highlander and are speaking out of frustration. you make false claims about his kit and what it can do because you are frustrated fighting him. I also play on consol. Ive only played on console.

His "fastest lights" are the ones from offensive stance. They are 400ms with a 300ms indicator and are all frame disadvantaged. Not frame advantaged. The only lights that could be considered frame advantaged are his mid chain lights which are only that way because they have a follow up of a heavy or a fast flow to offensive stance. I agree that his mid chain light should not have hyper armor. its too much for it to have hyper armor, good speed, good dmg and a good follow up. Also his lights from defensive stance, his neutral ones, are the same speed as every other characters. he does not have, as you claim, the fastest lights with hype armor, and frame advantage, and they're in a chain attack. That is pure misinformation.

Law getting hyper armor is another topic, he doesn't need it to be effective, has a parry/ counter monster with great HP and ridiculous punishes both for OOS and for heavy parry. That part isnt up for argument, he gets a top heavy on heavy parry and gets a full attack chain off on OOS punish. Absolutely absurd in my book.

The point of the CCU in the first place was to top people from light parrying on reaction to the indicator. congrats if you cant then its working as intended. you have to parry on prediction.
That being said they should clean up the animations of highlander's lights to better let people identify what's going on. Not all lights are created equal and animations play a big part in it. If youre asking to nerf highlander's lights because of lack of FPS then every character should be nerfed. You only are going after highlander specifically because youre struggling against him

[Gaser.]

Bro you main or choose HL as a 70rep. You don't want him to get a nerf. BUT I bet if I would ask the Community they would have say yes. HL lights needs a nerf. Like again fastest lights that has frame advantage, HA, and chain attack. This should literally be given to LAWBRINGER. I literally have to parry the light before the red indicator starts to appear. That's INSANE. Please just because you adapted to game and got good at it doesn't mean others can. HL is a struggled your to experienced to see that.

Fair warning don’t make assumptions about people because that will just make you look insecure and kinda stupid.

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I’m far from what you say, I’m actually quite terrible in playing highlander myself.

Tho I have learned how he works and how I can deal with him.

His fast lights are locked behind his offensive stance that completely removes his guard stances, if you effectively pressure the highlander he won’t be long in this stance.

Almost all of high level and comp already adapt to highlander and no one there really sees him as broken or OP.

Tell me why you apparently can’t do that?


I give my statement to Highlander’s current state again, currently the only major issue with him is the general issue of backwards crushing counter lights.

[MastlyCJ]

Fair warning don’t make assumptions about people because that will just make you look insecure and kinda stupid.

https://tracker.gg/for-honor/profile...er./pvp/heroes


I’m far from what you say, I’m actually quite terrible in playing highlander myself.

Tho I have learned how he works and how I can deal with him.

His fast lights are locked behind his offensive stance that completely removes his guard stances, if you effectively pressure the highlander he won’t be long in this stance.

Almost all of high level and comp already adapt to highlander and no one there really sees him as broken or OP.

Tell me why you apparently can’t do that?


I give my statement to Highlander’s current state again, currently the only major issue with him is the general issue of backwards crushing counter lights.

You know I really don't know why you guys keep on saying that I'm I said hes broken or OP. Never said that. Like you guys are responding as if I'm about to nerf him to death. No I'm not I simply just made a opinion about HL lights and like I said your opinion can't speak for everyone. He might be easy to parry to you guys but other people like me can't adapted to it or it justs simply another spammable hero. I just ask to removed HA for the most part. Crush-counter should be affected in my opinion. Also just because I give out a opinion doesn't mean some of you shouldn't force me to understand what you think about playstyle. I don't need no links or personal information about you. I'm simply here to give a opinion. Now let's end the arguement. What ever happens happens. I don't want this to go on for like a month.


OH YEAH CAN YOU GUYS RESPOND TO MY FORUM DEFLECTING Unblockables

[BartuPasha]

Highlander needs to be buffed in terms of damage, he's a trash hero actually.

[MastlyCJ]

Highlander needs to be buffed in terms of damage, he's a trash hero actually.

Your so funny bro that's Hilarious. HL NEEDS A BUFF, GOOD ONE. HE IS A AMAZING HERO DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT