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  1. #1

    NPCS Damage is Insane

    I feel i have to say this, the NPCS damage is off the scale right now, on heroic content i am finding it impossible to run by myself, the sheer damage the NPCS are putting out is too much for me to handle.

    I have tried most things now, multiple builds of varying strength, i have used skill builds , i have used straight damage builds , i have used full blue builds and the NPCS completely destroy me in seconds

    I am not running glass cannon but yet it feels as though i'm wearing it constantly, its similar on challenging difficult, the NPCS are shredding, now i don't know if this is a issue with our armor but i can be wearing 1.6m-1.8m armor and i still get shredded, the NPCS are so aggressive, i have even had instances where snipers are rushing me, snipers! it seems that they have balanced Heroic content for group play if this is the case i kind of just wish they would say that.

    This game right now as a solo player is no fun what so ever, the loot quality is abysmal, there is no reward for time played.

    Is anyone else having these problems? the NPCS are stronger now than they were when WONY first dropped.
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    I'm not having or noticing any issues with the NPCs at any difficulty solo, but others have mentioned issues. I feel like it's tied back to recent server issues [I am getting occasional stuttering].

    Some of us are lucky, just getting stutters. Others are getting what you're dealing with [which is likely lag/desync/hit detection issues].
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    I just took 800k dmg from heavy gunner on normal..... that is not right.
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    Only chance of survival i have at the moment on heroic content is a pistol and shield..... so boring
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    Yes totally agree with you.... I have a standard DPS build CHC 60% CHD 180% and I had no issues getting through heroic missions or CPs. I could take a bit of damage and very rarely needed to use an armor kit UNTIL Tuesday evening's update came out.... now 3-5 shots from an NPC melts my armor and just destroys me... I should point out that this includes triggering Unbreakable AND then also downing me. Gear rolls are shockingly low... on average the rolls are no higher than 20% per stat and CP cache's will go up to maybe 60% (on average) with the occasional item having a max or close to max roll.

    Then I played with some of my Clan mates.... Heroic with all directives on and things seem to be back to what they were prior to the update on Tuesday. You can take a few hits and still get to cover or roll out of the way and the gear rolls are also far better.

    Good job Ubisoft....
    1st You hang the PVP players out to dry with no new PVP content

    2nd You release PVE content that is well pretty average at best (not terrible, but nothing to write home about)

    3rd You nerf loot quality and make the return for grinding so low for solo players that if they wanted any decent gear the only option is to play within a group.... I don't mind that part so much but there should be a balance. There shouldn't be such a big difference between solo and group play... especially if you are solo heroic, realistically the only things that should be different between group play and solo are number of NPC waves and thus the amount and chance of good gear dropping. Things like enemy veterancy should then also scale with the level of difficulty you are on which is part of the game anyways.
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  6. #6
    Exactly

    Sure if you want to make the NPCS basically laser beams fine, but don't then give me below 80% rolls and Rainbows.

    Loot Quality and The NPCS damage currently is destroying this game. I hope they sort it out.
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    That may be the case Visualsun but i am a division veteran easily 2000+ hours between the division 1 and the division 2

    I have tried builds with 670k armor , full red crit build - a rusher can 1 shot me no enemy should be able to 1 shot a player without using a nemesis
    I have tried builds with armor between 1m-2m and the result is the same
    I have tried skill builds, they work to a degree but then the drone or turret gets pathing issues or NPCS just completely ignore my skills and smash me to pieces

    I put on my 1.6m armor crusader shield build , with 80% protection from elites absolute waste of time the red bars eat my shield alive

    It honestly feels like they have balanced heroic for 4 man teams, i should not be punished for playing on my own but yet at the moment it feels like i'm constantly running glass cannon when i am not.

    Something is off i dont care what they say, these NPCS are juiced, either that or the armor is not working as it should, at times i feel i might as well be wearing paper for all the use armor does
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  8. #8
    Hi,
    I have had no problem with solo heroic (with additional directives) with my skill build using good old drone and turret with technician.
    I find a little bit of strategy is all I need. Build has 3 empress, 2 Hanu -U (backpack has tech support) and 1 Wyvern with unbreakable.
    Cheers.
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    I made this point a few times in several threads, and it's something I definitely noticed while leveling a new account recently. There is a significant jump in both damage output and damage sponge between Challenging and Heroic.

    However, having said that, it's not something that's been changed or too difficult. It's been fairly consistent for awhile now, and actually received something of an indirect nerf awhile back(TU10?) when all player guns got baseline increases for their damage.

    But lets take a look at some ways you might be able to address the trouble you're having while fighting the NPCs:

    OP, I noticed you mentioned trying a bunch of different builds. But have you tried changing your playstyle and overall approach? I've been able to clear Heroic solo using gear from challenging, and I think the biggest tip I could give anyone is to ALWAYS try and position yourself to where only one enemy can see or shoot you at a time. Sometimes this means using the normal cover system. Sometimes it means just parking yourself with a bus or wall between you and most of the enemies. Sometimes it means just running away!

    Starting at 1:20, you can see a pretty good example of this in the first encounter of Jefferson Trade Center, where I use the Pillar as cover to keep enemies blocked except for the one I'm shooting at. But then right when the second wave spawns and I try to stand in the open, even two redbars with clear lines of fire to me break my armor!

    The next part in the hallway at 2:13, where a lot of enemies spawn, watch how I position myself so I can pick each enemy off one at a time. And even when I get hit I have a relatively safe spot to retreat into to completely break line of sight.

    Later on in the video at 8:24 you can see when I ignore all these rules. I try to go rambo in the parking garage, and instead of falling back I make a dumb decision to put myself in the middle of an elite chunga, elite turret, and enemies on a third side. I get surrounded and downed(Revive Hive for the win!).


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  10. #10
    I am soloing Legendary difficulty. Here is the build that does it.

    1 piece Sokolov chest with Intimidate
    1 piece Belstone
    3 pieces Foundry
    Momento Backpack
    Technician Specialization

    3 blues
    3 reds
    60/100 crit chance/damage

    I use a God rolled MPX with In Sync.

    Run crusader shield with articifer hive

    With 2% Regen you are constantly regenerating armor.

    The Momento gives you 2 tier specs on the shield, technician gives you 1 and the 3 blues give 3. This gives you a tier 6 shield with a gun that hits 105k with 60/100 crit. The articifer hive boosts the shield tremendously. When you pick up the Momento kill trophies you get bonus armor and boost the damage 35%. Just keep the battle in front of you at all times and go for headshots with the SMG. You can face tank sniper dogs, legendary rogues, etc....just do not let them flank you.
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