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    Last 8 Dominion matches I had to disconnect - unplayable VS Graphons.

    Dear Devs,

    why you ruin this game? Gryphon is terribly OP in Dominions and I had to disconnect 8 matches in a row because of it and I am sick of this game already. Every update is worse. Last Dominion match ... two of my teammates have 0-5 because enemy team has two Gryphons. Of course they disconnect in mid game. Almost every match are Gryphons on top. I have different post where I am explaining why. Fix it. The game population is terribly low in Europe. With this nonsense you are lossing more players every day. Just wake up! Hire better managers if they are incompetent and unskilled and make the game great again like in first year.
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    Ah yes people rage quitting because they have to face the new hero, man that’s still rather pathetic.

    Won’t really help to improve against him either.

    Tho his feats are quite to strong his moveset on the other is absolutely okay.
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    Gryphon is hard to fight. Skilled player know that unblockable opener gives him great adavatage. If you add super dodge attack than the Gryphon is atm. strongest Hero in game. 1vs1 I can stand a fight but in Dominion, it is crazy. Like Cents - you are bashed / kicked to death from a side. You can only pray for a Revange.... it is sad.
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    Originally Posted by FAT_GUTS Go to original post
    Gryphon is hard to fight. Skilled player know that unblockable opener gives him great adavatage. If you add super dodge attack than the Gryphon is atm. strongest Hero in game. 1vs1 I can stand a fight but in Dominion, it is crazy. Like Cents - you are bashed / kicked to death from a side. You can only pray for a Revange.... it is sad.
    You might play a different game then. Warmonger with corruption eats them like cake, and I had many games where they were oppressed pretty hard by A tiers (I completely butchered a few with Shugoki). I think I even perfected some with Peacekeeper. A better player will defeat you with it, a worse would lose to you if you would abandon your loser mentality and stop quitting.

    Also, if you disconnect 8 times in a row, does that mean you spent two hours in quit penalty? Or did you cheat with task manager? Because that is the real problem, not Gryphon.


    That crossbow needs to be slower though, it has zero animation, if I would not see the trailer, I would think he is hitting me with magic.
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    Originally Posted by FAT_GUTS Go to original post
    Gryphon is hard to fight. Skilled player know that unblockable opener gives him great adavatage. If you add super dodge attack than the Gryphon is atm. strongest Hero in game. 1vs1 I can stand a fight but in Dominion, it is crazy. Like Cents - you are bashed / kicked to death from a side. You can only pray for a Revange.... it is sad.
    The only real thing about Gryphon is that he is new, thats his advantage his moveset is decent around solid B tier in my opinion.


    Gryphon gank pressure is also rather bad if you compare it to other heroes in this game.

    Dodge attack is a single diraction, 600ms, only from one side, not feintable dodge attack, with rather huge amount of gb vurnable time at the start, its decent but nothing great.
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    Originally Posted by FAT_GUTS Go to original post
    Gryphon is hard to fight. Skilled player know that unblockable opener gives him great adavatage. If you add super dodge attack than the Gryphon is atm. strongest Hero in game. 1vs1 I can stand a fight but in Dominion, it is crazy. Like Cents - you are bashed / kicked to death from a side. You can only pray for a Revange.... it is sad.
    No... skilled players know his shove isn't a big deal. Noobs THINK THEY KNOW that it gives him a great advantage.

    I guess we know which one you are...
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    It really is a shame how people are so distraught over the fact that they can't beat a hero that, to better players, isn't OP mechanically speaking.

    I can't understand how people are complaining about the dodge attack.

    Granted, it's decently quick for a heavy dodge attack at 600ms, but it comes from the side he's dodging to and is not feintable. Since Gryphon's dodge so used so much, it should be fairly easy to bait it out with a simple feint... Right now, Gryphons are dodging as predictably as a bad Orochi or Kensei player. It's literally a free parry if from neutral or if you bait it out. There's nothing to be scared of if they can't feint it.

    As for the shove, it feels fast for me personally, but it isn't something too crazy if I expect it or make a read if they feint a heavy and shove. There isn't much of an animation so it just feels weird. But, it isn't too crazy. It's actually pretty predictable, and like Kensei or Cent, they can continue their chains off a whiffed shove and get to their kick mixup.

    The crossbow is too fast really. Hardly any animation and it heals yourself and allies while also dealing damage. Shugoki's bow is fast, but at least there's time to dodge if I expect it and I see a glimpse of it. For how much utility Gryphon's bow has, the speed probably needs to be nerfed.

    Other than that, Gryphon isn't this insane hero. A lot of people still need more time to learn apparently.
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