Gryphons bash should not guarantee a heavy | Forums

[User1391]

Who ever though this was a good idea should be taken off the development team. Also his bad animations make it hard to distinguish his lights from heavies

[Gaser.]

lights and heavy kinda loke very differnt.

Also why shouldnt it, it is locked behind a combo not really new if you think that valk can do the same and that most mix ups are way saver and give the same dmg.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Who ever though this was a good idea should be taken off the development team. Also his bad animations make it hard to distinguish his lights from heavies

Wishing for someone losing their job, especially this year, just because you are too much of a noob to understand the kick can only come out in place of a finisher and is punished by a free guardbreak would be enough of a reason to call you a selfentitled stupid little ****. You also want to ruin a balanced character just because you are a noob, so maybe we should stretch that further.

[User1391]

I'm pretty sure being civil is part the forum rules, I will let the mods look into that.
But looking past your toxic outburst, I did not wish for someone to loose there job I said taken off the development team from for Honor and its not because "i'm too much of a noob" like you fasley claimed but because they made a really bad decision. And people don't actually get removed for such decisions that can be easily fixed by tweaking a dmg value so it was obviously a joke meant to imply the gravity of the offence, you know, since it is so bad they would do something as unpredicted as actually removing someone. But I'm a selfentitled stupid little **** because you cant get the irony? Wow how toxic.
Also I'm not being selfentitled, other people are upset about this bash as well that even freeze made a video addressing it,
And I'm not trying to "ruin a balanced character because I'm a noob",Im trying to make him balanced. If I thought he was already balance I wouldn't be making this post, maybe if you weren't so outraged by my comment you could try some logic.

And being a noob shouldn't matter, if a character is OP or not. But in low skill tiers it shines trough, if you have a match of beginners where nobody knows what they are doing and one of them is butchering the others despite being as clueless as others its because they have an inherent advantage of a much more powerful hero then everyone else. Stop being an condescending elitist.

[Gaser.]

I'm pretty sure being civil is part the forum rules, I will let the mods look into that.
But looking past your toxic outburst, I did not wish for someone to loose there job I said taken off the development team from for Honor and its not because "i'm too much of a noob" like you fasley claimed but because they made a really bad decision. And people don't actually get removed for such decisions that can be easily fixed by tweaking a dmg value so it was obviously a joke meant to imply the gravity of the offence, you know, since it is so bad they would do something as unpredicted as actually removing someone. But I'm a selfentitled stupid little **** because you cant get the irony? Wow how toxic.
Also I'm not being selfentitled, other people are upset about this bash as well that even freeze made a video addressing it,
And I'm not trying to "ruin a balanced character because I'm a noob",Im trying to make him balanced. If I thought he was already balance I wouldn't be making this post, maybe if you weren't so outraged by my comment you could try some logic.

And being a noob shouldn't matter, if a character is OP or not. But in low skill tiers it shines trough, if you have a match of beginners where nobody knows what they are doing and one of them is butchering the others despite being as clueless as others its because they have an inherent advantage of a much more powerful hero then everyone else. Stop being an condescending elitist.

Sure other people are upset but mostly it is people that are most of the time just pissed of the fact that they have to get used to a new hero.

Most post I saw about people complaining are pure non sense and pretty much lacks any game knowledge, it pretty much only triggered do tho the fact hero is new.


Like really look up the dmg numbers speed of his attacks and all he has and you pretty much just already see a hero that will be around B Tier after people got used to him. (The only major problem he has are his feats but pretty much most feats in this game are just way to strong)

His dmg is pretty much in line with every mix up that can give you a heavy.

His dmg overall is pretty much also like other heroes and so its his speed and stamina cost and drain.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I'm pretty sure being civil is part the forum rules, I will let the mods look into that.
But looking past your toxic outburst, I did not wish for someone to loose there job I said taken off the development team from for Honor and its not because "i'm too much of a noob" like you fasley claimed but because they made a really bad decision. And people don't actually get removed for such decisions that can be easily fixed by tweaking a dmg value so it was obviously a joke meant to imply the gravity of the offence, you know, since it is so bad they would do something as unpredicted as actually removing someone. But I'm a selfentitled stupid little **** because you cant get the irony? Wow how toxic.
Also I'm not being selfentitled, other people are upset about this bash as well that even freeze made a video addressing it,
And I'm not trying to "ruin a balanced character because I'm a noob",Im trying to make him balanced. If I thought he was already balance I wouldn't be making this post, maybe if you weren't so outraged by my comment you could try some logic.

And being a noob shouldn't matter, if a character is OP or not. But in low skill tiers it shines trough, if you have a match of beginners where nobody knows what they are doing and one of them is butchering the others despite being as clueless as others its because they have an inherent advantage of a much more powerful hero then everyone else. Stop being an condescending elitist.

Yeah, thanks for proving my point! Running to mommy as soon as someone calls you the spoiled little brat you are who can not accept their own mistakes, and instantly blames it on something else really proves you are what I called you.

Well, 28 damage worth losing their job, then I guess if it would deal 40, it would be so big of a mistake they should kill themselves, right? And as soon as this was questioned, it was just a joke, and irony.

Other people are upset because there are many people like you, who lack the ability to make objective analysis about something, and as soon as something is not instantly easy for them, they must find an outside source as an excuse. In my chess community, this is named the loser mentailty- having too big of an ego to own up your mistakes, and therefore being unable to ever learn from them. I am not ashamed to admit that my kill-death ratio against Gryphons currently is horrible- not because he is broken in any way (at least in 1v1), but because I don't instinctively know what to expect from them exactly. But that is not the hero's problem: his main mixup is a 50/50, where one version guarantees a heavy attack and risks the guardbreak, the other guarantees a light attack and risks a heavy parry punish. Which is completely fair.

If you would have just written down your opinion, I would have written down why I disagree (not like this needs other topics, there are like 5 active ones about it). You did not, you just wrote down you want some people fired, and a character dumbed down for your convenience.


Being a noob does matter. There is no point in balancing characters for them, because it really doesn't matter for them what they play, they lack the necessary understanding to profit from stronger characters. Orochi, an infamously weak hero is extremely succesful in low tiers because you just lightspam with him, and people don't understand how to defend against that, and capitalize on his many weaknesses. Warden, one of the best duelists in the game, completely sucks if you don't understand spacing, which is a fairly complex thing most of the players don't understand at all.

If you would grab two completely avarage human beings, force them to fight, and arm one with a sword, and the other with the best available assault rifle, it wouldn't matter which one is the better weapon, the sword guy would win while the other would try to find out how to load, unmake the safety and shoot. That doesn't mean the problem is with the gun, and the sword is better.

[FAT_GUTS]

I'm pretty sure being civil is part the forum rules, I will let the mods look into that.
But looking past your toxic outburst, I did not wish for someone to loose there job I said taken off the development team from for Honor and its not because "i'm too much of a noob" like you fasley claimed but because they made a really bad decision. And people don't actually get removed for such decisions that can be easily fixed by tweaking a dmg value so it was obviously a joke meant to imply the gravity of the offence, you know, since it is so bad they would do something as unpredicted as actually removing someone. But I'm a selfentitled stupid little **** because you cant get the irony? Wow how toxic.
Also I'm not being selfentitled, other people are upset about this bash as well that even freeze made a video addressing it,
And I'm not trying to "ruin a balanced character because I'm a noob",Im trying to make him balanced. If I thought he was already balance I wouldn't be making this post, maybe if you weren't so outraged by my comment you could try some logic.

And being a noob shouldn't matter, if a character is OP or not. But in low skill tiers it shines trough, if you have a match of beginners where nobody knows what they are doing and one of them is butchering the others despite being as clueless as others its because they have an inherent advantage of a much more powerful hero then everyone else. Stop being an condescending elitist.

I agree that many users here only attacks others ... it is sad but true.

[Gaser.]

I agree that many users here only attacks others ... it is sad but true.

You wouldn’t get so much under fire if you wouldn’t just post your stuff multiple people said makes no sense is untrue everywhere on these forums.