Gryphon has NOTHING on Conqueror | Forums

[saskamon]

What makes it the best optionselect? Better than let's say Gladiator's?

Conq Option Select can ba punished only by parrying. BP and Glad can be punished by faint to light or faint to dodge attack.
Plus superior block.

[saskamon]

I wasn't playing as Gryphon, just pointing out that Conqueror is far more busted than Gryph for all the people crying about him.

Because almost nobody play as Conq on low level duels. It's pretty hard to find such opponent. Also, to be a good conq player, you must know game mechanics. While playing as shugo or gryphon (etc) is pretty easy. You just press R1-R2. And GB occasionly.

[MrBdur]

Because almost nobody play as Conq on low level duels. It's pretty hard to find such opponent. Also, to be a good conq player, you must know game mechanics. While playing as shugo or gryphon (etc) is pretty easy. You just press R1-R2. And GB occasionly.

"Just pressing rb/rt" has not gone well for me in years.

When things come from me, it's coming from a very high level standpoint. Every single player I face has knowledge of game mechanics. If they don't, then the matchmaking effed up. I am high diamond rank. Top 2% globally in duels.

I don't find Gryphon to be much of an issue. Shugos only real issue is HA on his light attack. Conqueror is so easy to abuse. Just get good at timing his zone attack and do a million bashes. Automatic wins.

[saskamon]

"Just pressing rb/rt" has not gone well for me in years.

When things come from me, it's coming from a very high level standpoint. Every single player I face has knowledge of game mechanics. If they don't, then the matchmaking effed up. I am high diamond rank. Top 2% globally in duels.

I don't find Gryphon to be much of an issue. Shugos only real issue is HA on his light attack. Conqueror is so easy to abuse. Just get good at timing his zone attack and do a million bashes. Automatic wins.

I made the point WHY people don't complain about conq a lot.
Yes, conq is cancerous. He and bp are the strongest duelists in the game. Plus mister backdodge shoulder guy.

[The_Sentinel_]

That's how the character design is, so can't really blame players. plus his ZA damage was already nerfed to 5 or 6 I guess which means it is used more of a defensive tool rather than offensive.

He doesnt have much going on for him in offense other than Shield Bash which the mix up can easily be dodged.

Yes he is very difficult to play against in the hands of a turtle or a very experienced player but what more can he be nerfed without impacting his overall viability?

[AbuZnood]

So I've been playing a little more again lately and just wow.

I forgot how absolutely broken Conqueror is in duels.

I just 3 - 0 a dude and so he rematched and picked, guess who, Conqueror.

He picked him because he knew the hero was unfairly advantaged.

Seriously.

4 TG reworks and zero news on Conq updates.

EITHER REMOVE SUPERIOR BLOCK FROM CONQS ZONE ATTACK OR MAKE IT ONE SWING, NOT INFINITE WITH INFINITE SUPERIOR BLOCK MY GOD.

Why does he even have this to begin with? How is it not obviously broken to have an attack that gets superior block and can be held down and can't be guardbroken either. What?

Trying to duel a Conqueror in the hands of an experienced player is like pulling teeth and by far the qorst experience the game has to offer.

Yes pretty much every hero without unblockable are at a disadvantage agasinst conq. Just bait the full block to gb and if he find it amusing to waste his stamina in doing infinite spinning zone, then let it do it then harass him to make him OOS.