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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    It's the way it works in the real world. Once again if one has already made up their mind. Providing proof won't change their minds.
    This is rich given your previous post.

    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I think you just like seeing how many threads you can cause to get locked. Very childish.
    Huh, who knew that a preference for a fact-based discussion of different opinions would be equated to childishness. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

    [edit] alright, I'm done. Posts seem to be getting deleted. I'll leave you to your little bubble and hope that you're able to find some joy soon, even if it's in another game.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    Problem is in the game. You really should pay attention to what you are reading. Much like the idea when others have posted picks of what they have dropped and then folks like yourself will argue that isn't accurate. If you are already refusing to believe. You won't ever see the truth. Like I stated, you really can't believe your experiences speak for all. So even though you started over and deleted all gear. Doesn't mean every player is going to have the builds to be clearing Heroic in days.
    The pics like the OP posted? Where 2-3 of them were actually decent if recalibrated?

    The problem is not that I'm unwilling to accept proof. The problem is that most often the "proof" doesn't match up to the claim.

    The more you post, the more it sounds like you just aren't willing to accept the possibility that you might not be completely right about these things. Which also means you'll never be able to improve or adapt.

    I get being angry at the game. Go back towards TU9 and you'll find posts of mine railing against the M1A meta and how broken and unfair heroic is. But I had people show me that I was wrong, and finally accepted it. And now I clear heroic with ease and look at every problem I have with the game critically and objectively.

    The problem here is that there's a LOT of claims being made with nothing to substantiate them. If you can't show us what's actually happening, what ARE we supposed to think when we don't experience it ourselves?
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    It's the way it works in the real world. Once again if one has already made up their mind. Providing proof won't change their minds.
    And when I'm literally telling you right now, that if you show me proof that I am wrong, that I'll change my mind?
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    Wait, so first you claim that I think the game is perfect, ignore evidence to the contrary, then repeat the same claim?

    Gotta admire the sheer chutzpah
    You really should go back and read your some of your responses to other people post. Consider you double standards. Another player has a complaint and you have attacked them and praised the Devs and the game. Yet you want to post your complaints and be supported for being a rebel.
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    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    The pics like the OP posted? Where 2-3 of them were actually decent if recalibrated?

    The problem is not that I'm unwilling to accept proof. The problem is that most often the "proof" doesn't match up to the claim.

    The more you post, the more it sounds like you just aren't willing to accept the possibility that you might not be completely right about these things. Which also means you'll never be able to improve or adapt.

    I get being angry at the game. Go back towards TU9 and you'll find posts of mine railing against the M1A meta and how broken and unfair heroic is. But I had people show me that I was wrong, and finally accepted it. And now I clear heroic with ease and look at every problem I have with the game critically and objectively.

    The problem here is that there's a LOT of claims being made with nothing to substantiate them. If you can't show us what's actually happening, what ARE we supposed to think when we don't experience it ourselves?
    I have been around long enough that when people have shown proof, that the non-believers will refuse to believe it anyway. Their minds are already made up. Cause there have been a LOT of claims made. I have seen the proof over the years, when one provides it, the other side ignores it. Only way for anyone to accept it, is if they do the research themselves. Like right now you want to argue and argue and argue with me. Meanwhile, knowing you wasn't going to ever let me change your mind. People don't want to hear your opinion, they want to hear their opinion come out of your mouth.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    I have been around long enough that when people have shown proof, that the non-believers will refuse to believe it anyway. Their minds are already made up. Cause there have been a LOT of claims made. I have seen the proof over the years, when one provides it, the other side ignores it. Only way for anyone to accept it, is if they do the research themselves. Like right now you want to argue and argue and argue with me. Meanwhile, knowing you wasn't going to ever let me change your mind. People don't want to hear your opinion, they want to hear their opinion come out of your mouth.
    I literally just told you I was willing to change my mind if you showed good evidence. I corroborated that with an example of how I've done so in the past in a situation almost exactly like this one. And still you refuse?

    Do you know how that comes across? Like someone who doesn't have any evidence but doesn't want to risk being proven wrong.

    Look. I'm not going to sh*t on you if we have a real discussion about whatever claims you make. Let's approach this like adults. Show me what you have and we'll get tp the bottom of what shennanigans the game is up to. We all know the game has bugs. But if you've been around as long as you say, you'll know that a lot of times people get angry and claim all kinds of wild things.

    So what's it gonna be? Sulking rando forum poster making wild unsubstantiated claims, or adult intelligent discussion to find out what's happening?
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    You really should go back and read your some of your responses to other people post. Consider you double standards. Another player has a complaint and you have attacked them and praised the Devs and the game. Yet you want to post your complaints and be supported for being a rebel.
    I suggest you put them both on ignore and let them screech into the void.
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I suggest you put them both on ignore and let them screech into the void.


    They just asked Yoda to substantiate their claim. When someone tells you to do the leg work yourself, it usually means they have bupkis. One of those "doth protests too much" situations.. if the evidence was so readily available, Yoda could produce it. Since they haven't, I have to assume hyperbole [or poor reading comprehension or the shakespeare variation]. Ball is in Yoda's court at this point, from my perspective - SirCowDog seems much more sincere [maybe that's my forum noobness showing]..

    Anywho, I'm hoping we can turn this into an exploration of how RNG actually works in this game. Who knows, maybe it's like FF back in the day, and if we understand the RNG, we can exploit it
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I suggest you put them both on ignore and let them screech into the void.
    I don't know why you have such a strong reaction to me. All I've done is reasonably disagree with you a few times.

    But I understand it's easier to put someone on ignore than to have your POV challenged. No hate towards you. I hope you have a more reasonable approach in the future, however.
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    Originally Posted by LateNiteDelight Go to original post


    They just asked Yoda to substantiate their claim. When someone tells you to do the leg work yourself, it usually means they have bupkis. One of those "doth protests too much" situations.. if the evidence was so readily available, Yoda could produce it. Since they haven't, I have to assume hyperbole [or poor reading comprehension or the shakespeare variation]. Ball is in Yoda's court at this point, from my perspective - SirCowDog seems much more sincere [maybe that's my forum noobness showing]..

    Anywho, I'm hoping we can turn this into an exploration of how RNG actually works in this game. Who knows, maybe it's like FF back in the day, and if we understand the RNG, we can exploit it
    Yoda is talking about white knights that constantly defend the the RNG. The two attacking him over proof are the people he's talking about. Proof is pointless.

    That said, sircowdog is not as bad. Still on ignore. That dagrommit is just wasted bandwidth. In every topic with every reply. I shouldn't have wasted any time on that.
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