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    Assault rifles ammo capacity

    Hello. Thank you for all your hard work, especially in these difficult times.
    I recently started playing with assault rifles and I dare say it is fun! haha . But unfortunately it wasn't all rainbow land experience. It was hard not to notice punishing inferiority of assault rifles compared to rifles. Before I dive in deeper please check these screenshots.







    When I used rifles, I only used 3 - 5 clips for clearing a control point. I had plenty of ammo left to fight against upcoming waves of enemies. So imagine my surprise when I used assault rifles in same control point, with only slightly different but better optimized build.







    After clearing the place I had to run around immediately or run as fast as I can towards the ammo crate to re-supply myself. In fact, this is the case for all control points. Now, I am fully aware that faster rate of fire exhausts bullets faster as well but the difference between two weapon types was just punishing. Think about the gap; Fully stocked assault rifles have about 972 bullets, thus you have about 19-20 clips, Rifles have about 36 clips! 36! I find this to be so unbalanced.

    I can't say anything certain about damage. Personally, I think other weapons like assault rifles, specifically, should have one more slight damage buff in upcoming update. What I can say without an ounce of doubt, however, is that assault rifles need more total ammo. I mean rifles get to have about 16-17 more clips. This is so unfair. So please, please do consider doing something about this at your earliest convenience.

    Please and thank you.

    *p.s. I first posted this on "Suggestions & Feedback" section but "General Discussion" seemed more alive and being looked at, so I posted the same content on here as well. Sorry.*
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    100% agree. I run out of ammo on almost every control point. I will have a few rounds left over if I use the Acosta bag that gives 25% more ammo so I'm guessing we need 25% more ammo.
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    How many clips you have depends on the gun your using.

    420 rifles rounds in a mk17 is 22 mags. In a sig its about 17 mags. In an m1a its 42!

    Same deal with assault rifles in an ak it may only be 20 mags burning a g36 or p416 its nearer 35.

    Numbers vary based on mods and rolls obviously.

    But ammo is so plentiful in this game its impossible to run out unless your either running directives or cant hit the side of a barn from 10m away.
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    There's a specialization that generates ammo every XX amount of seconds/minutes but I can't remember the stipulations atm
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    100% agree. I run out of ammo on almost every control point. I will have a few rounds left over if I use the Acosta bag that gives 25% more ammo so I'm guessing we need 25% more ammo.
    Thanks for your support. And 25%, in my case that would be about (97*2)+48= 242 more bullets. That would be nice.
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    Originally Posted by CalvyB Go to original post

    But ammo is so plentiful in this game its impossible to run out unless your either running directives or cant hit the side of a barn from 10m away.
    Not true for all builds. If you have 270K health and 600K armor, you can't be running around grabbing ammo off the ground without getting one tapped.
    Funny thing is, they're going to force skill builds to use their guns in TU12 so ammo will be a huge problem soon.
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    Originally Posted by CalvyB Go to original post
    How many clips you have depends on the gun your using.

    420 rifles rounds in a mk17 is 22 mags. In a sig its about 17 mags. In an m1a its 42!

    Same deal with assault rifles in an ak it may only be 20 mags burning a g36 or p416 its nearer 35.

    Numbers vary based on mods and rolls obviously.

    But ammo is so plentiful in this game its impossible to run out unless your either running directives or cant hit the side of a barn from 10m away.
    When running missions it would be as you stated. When running control points, it is not like that at all. You really exhaust your bullets. If you don't re-supply yourself, your bullets might not even last to third wave, which is trying to take back the control point . And as I've mentioned, I am aware of the fact that guns with fast rate of fire spend bullets faster too. But this end-result is so different. See up there, I compared it. Those two sets of screenshots are all done by me, same person; hence shot the similar amount, missed the similar amount, and experience with assault rifle was always dire compared to rifle.
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    also if you want to farm a CP, call for allies, fight the npcs, kill the boss as soon as you can, fast travel to a safe house, then fast travel back to the green gun icon for your allies. you can basically farm the encounter over again plus refill your ammo/nades when you FT to the safe house.
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    betwen my primary and secondary i have never , ever,been out of ammo when conquering a CP , not in solo ,not in a 4 man group and on any dificulty , in fact i hardly remeber being out off ammo on any gun , so i dont have a clue how you guys waste so much ammo.
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    betwen my primary and secondary i have never , ever,been out of ammo when conquering a CP , not in solo ,not in a 4 man group and on any dificulty , in fact i hardly remeber being out off ammo on any gun , so i dont have a clue how you guys waste so much ammo.
    No no no, not run out of bullets completely. Yea, my secondary weapon for my assault rifle build is just rifle so since not a single bullet is used on that one, sure, I have plenty of bullets left. I'm talking about assault rifle as primary and primary weapons alone. You know, like my title? Wait, am I being trolled?
    I'm saying primary weapon wise, between using rifle and assault rifle, the latter always ends up desperately looking for bullets after clearing a control point. Which is totally not needed for rifle build, giving you safer time to get to your favorite defensive position. I believe this difference is unfair and wanted to bring this to attention, even if someone already did.
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