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  1. #11
    NLxAROSA's Avatar Senior Member
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    If a person gets terrible loot all the time, then that's a terrible player experience and this will ultimately drive them out of the game. No amount of bootlicking and/or white-knighting will change that.

    The devs with their weird fetish with weighted RNG (and their obvious inability to fix it) are the problem here. Can't have people getting good loot and enjoying themselves, right?

    Pro-tip: it's better for folks to quit because they got everything in the game than that they quit because they feel they're running headfirst into a wall. The former will return on updates/expansions and new titles, the latter will not.
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I hate to break it to ya but there's nothing random about never.

    I could see a mission dropping a bunch of stuff on one run and dropping nothing on another but when it drops nothing on every run... ???
    The problem is your evidence is anecdotal. I do not doubt that you believe what you are saying is true. But somebody else could say they are dropping nothing but good loot and I have no way of telling which of you is correct or indeed, you are both correct. Your experience is just that and the claim as it stands, is not falsifiable and as a result, conversation with other people is speculation.
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by Adam_Sanderson Go to original post
    The problem is your evidence is anecdotal. I do not doubt that you believe what you are saying is true. But somebody else could say they are dropping nothing but good loot and I have no way of telling which of you is correct or indeed, you are both correct. Your experience is just that and the claim as it stands, is not falsifiable and as a result, conversation with other people is speculation.
    You literally said nothing.

    We're ALL talking about our own experience.
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    Originally Posted by Adam_Sanderson Go to original post
    The problem is your evidence is anecdotal. I do not doubt that you believe what you are saying is true. But somebody else could say they are dropping nothing but good loot and I have no way of telling which of you is correct or indeed, you are both correct. Your experience is just that and the claim as it stands, is not falsifiable and as a result, conversation with other people is speculation.
    lol the EVIDENCE is playing the game , Some will see better drops as they play in groups and some says it rains loot in groups , but the solo player does not see the same amount of loot, some missions no npc drop loot they just drop ammo , and the only loot you get is from the end boss..
    and it doe snot matter what level you play the loot is not in the game for solo players..
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    Originally Posted by hyper---sniper Go to original post
    lol the EVIDENCE is playing the game , Some will see better drops as they play in groups and some says it rains loot in groups , but the solo player does not see the same amount of loot, some missions no npc drop loot they just drop ammo , and the only loot you get is from the end boss..
    and it doe snot matter what level you play the loot is not in the game for solo players..
    I get about 3 drops per 100 kills. That's a 3% chance to get anything at all. The odds of getting anything good from that are astronomical.
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    At the beginning of this season i had several god rolls.....good ones, but not really any since. I cant say for sure if there's been a dip in quality as i do periodically get some good prices that i can actually upgrade my current gear with. You may be right though who knows.
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  7. #17
    This game desperately needs a bad luck counter. I think it's better to have a game remembered as a good experience ("Man, I left that game because I had everything maxed & content became easier to do, but it sure was a blast. You can sure give it a try! It gave me an entire year worth of good experience") rather than being trashed all over the community & forums. Content was a lot of fun in the 1st game when I had everything I wanted & maxed out after 1 year. Kept me playing it until the 2nd one got released. I'm not feeling the same with this one if a 3rd game is being released. They sure haven't learned a damn thing from the 1st game, except for making the exact same mistakes!
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    Originally Posted by Adam_Sanderson Go to original post
    ...somebody else could say they are dropping nothing but good loot.........
    Hahaha, nobody has ever said that about Div 2!
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    loot is def junk right now. 40 floors of the summit this weekend and i guarantee not a single piece had an attribute that was above 75-80% on heroic with 5 directives. I was playing Legendary on the first 20 but its just too cumbersome for the pitiful loot it is dropping, i didnt notice a single change on the last 20 floors on heroic as opposed to legendary. I take my RNG lumps pretty good for the most part but with the SUmmit not being very interesting or engaging whatsoever, at least drop some decent loot. My guess is they lowered it once again(yes, a stealth change) since we can pick whatever we want in the summit. Its their way of giving us more options on the exterior but on the back end its the usual no lube hack job we have become accustomed to.
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by moesuvious Go to original post
    40 floors of the summit this weekend and i guarantee not a single piece had an attribute that was above 75-80% on heroic with 5 directives.
    That is, statistically, like getting struck by lightning. Sucks man.

    I'm assuming you realize 80% of 15 is 12 - so you're saying you got literally zero pieces with a WD >12% on 40 floors of Heroic Summit? No Armor Cores >136k? You had zero Crit Damage or Skill Haste rolls >9.6? No HzP, Skill Damage, or Explosive Resistance >8? WH>6.5? CHC>4.8?
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