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    God bless those responding to this tragedy, and those who've lost loved ones. You're in my prayers, brothers-in-arms.
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    Latest info is 12 dead (including one gunman) and 31 wounded. 2 other suspected shooters are said to be in custody.
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    Originally posted by Monterey13:
    This is what happens when .........
    You need to find a better way to express that sentiment. I agree with the essence of the stement 110% .. but you need to find a better way to express yourself..

    I see this has already been dealt with.

    Look folks .. anyone else coming into this thread needs to understand that no ethnic, nationalistic or racial slurs will be tolerated.. not here not now not ever. WE ALL are horrified by this event and it's implications.. but if you cannot express yourself in an adult manner then DO NOT post here.
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    This is not the first time that a U.S. Soldier of middle-eastern descent has went off and killed several American Servicemen. We need to stop letting them infiltrate our military, and then they won't have the chance to do this. I think we need tighter recruitment guidelines.

    That's as clean as I could put it.
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    So you're saying that the army should base it's recruiting on race?
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    I agree with you 100% Monty. But this is going to have far reaching implications... What do you do with loyal Americans of Arab decent? How can you exclude them from military service? What do you do with Mulim Americans on this? How do you counter it. Apparently one of these guys was a Major for goodness sake... a Major.. Not some 3 year nco... This is bad. This is very very bad on so many levels.

    Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
    So you're saying that the army should base it's recruiting on race?
    No... but something needs to be done.. more stringent psych testing.. something needs to be done.. and just saying "Oh well we can't profile these folks" is just not going to cut it.. You dont get it... these guys were Army.. this one guy was a friggin Major.. What's gong to happen when some otehr Arab officer or NCO has to go into combat with his mates... do you think they will trust him? How long was this guy here.. ? Was he a sleeper? Are there more? Are they your neighbors? You get the picture.. this is bad.. very very very bad.. and the full measure of it's impact will be unfolding for some time... It is a tough call....
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    It's not only U.S. personnel in recent days..

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8343531.stm

    Extremely emotive, but not indicative of all nationals or descendants behaviour.
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