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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    So yah blaming the players? Interesting? It is broken, has been broken, still broken for many. Never been fixed. Sounds to me you are just one of the lucky ones, who get everything they want so it's fine. Yet for some of us. This is becoming game breaking issue. Personally tired of not seeing exotics, named items, or specific gear that has good enough rolls to become remotely usable. The RNG in this game is broken and it's the Devs fault and they could fix it at anytime.
    if this is true , and i dont believe it, you are either not playing enough for a looter shooter or you are playing on a dificulty where those items are super rare and not suposed to drop that often.

    either way only from the weekly projects and invaded missions you get more than enough of those items every week so stating what you did is just plain exageration and makes you loose all credibility in my eyes.

    seems you just wanted to beat Xcel30 with a stick for being realistic and doing that proved his point , some players just love to cry and they do ruin games when DEVS start catering to them.
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    Originally Posted by Relato_Ger Go to original post
    oO why u are even doing a CP at all now ?
    if u want loot go to summit ...
    CP and missions are a total waist of time now, snice u can get all u want at summit
    Well to be honest; The drops arent great in summit either.

    But main reason is that i dont like doing it solo, and grouping up with randoms is annoying since most dont have a mic. So if my friends not online, i prefer to roam open world.
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    Funnily enough, I found better loot from regular open-world chests. The usual ones that lie everywhere. They were much better than loot at checkpoints, missions with cheroic difficulty. This was the case on TU9, 9.1
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    if this is true , and i dont believe it, you are either not playing enough for a looter shooter or you are playing on a dificulty where those items are super rare and not suposed to drop that often.

    either way only from the weekly projects and invaded missions you get more than enough of those items every week so stating what you did is just plain exageration and makes you loose all credibility in my eyes.

    seems you just wanted to beat Xcel30 with a stick for being realistic and doing that proved his point , some players just love to cry and they do ruin games when DEVS start catering to them.
    This is a stupid, uninformed reply. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not. Is it meant just to be inflammatory or do you actually believe what you're saying? Do you actually believe your own luck has anything to do with another player's?

    RNG means that a player can play 10,000 hours on legendary and not receive anything of worth. That's how it works. And this franchise is famous for locking some players out of the loot circle.

    My RNG has been ok in this game but I remember TD1. I put in thousands of hours to get everything. I've run one mission on the highest difficulty 100 times straight and got nothing for it. Weeks of grinding nothing else. Some players get the short end of the stick consistently. Calling BS because YOU'RE lucky is... well, I started my reply with it.

    This is not meant as an attack. I'm truly curious as to what you mean.
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    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    This is a stupid, uninformed reply. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not. Is it meant just to be inflammatory or do you actually believe what you're saying? Do you actually believe your own luck has anything to do with another player's?

    RNG means that a player can play 10,000 hours on legendary and not receive anything of worth. That's how it works. And this franchise is famous for locking some players out of the loot circle.

    My RNG has been ok in this game but I remember TD1. I put in thousands of hours to get everything. I've run one mission on the highest difficulty 100 times straight and got nothing for it. Weeks of grinding nothing else. Some players get the short end of the stick consistently. Calling BS because YOU'RE lucky is... well, I started my reply with it.
    no, its informed , comes with own experience and yes i firmly belive it .

    now you

    do you really think that is how things work ? if you do then im afraid you gotta inform yourself as im not here to even remotely try to change your mind , this is too much like religion or politics , you decided to think that way and you are the only one who can change your own mind because you will not aceppt others views and will always dismiss them , notice how your only counter argument is that im lucky while promptly labeling the post as inflamatory , yeah , has nothing to do with smart grinding , inventory management and wasted hours on the harder dificulties.

    im not going to jump on the hate train a handfull love to ride full steam the whole time on this forum , and others for that matter , i think for my head and use my own experience and common sense when i say something , i will complain as i did in the past when i have too but you guys just exagereate all the frigging time , you are never happy about ANYTHING.
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    if this is true , and i dont believe it, you are either not playing enough for a looter shooter or you are playing on a dificulty where those items are super rare and not suposed to drop that often.

    either way only from the weekly projects and invaded missions you get more than enough of those items every week so stating what you did is just plain exageration and makes you loose all credibility in my eyes.

    seems you just wanted to beat Xcel30 with a stick for being realistic and doing that proved his point , some players just love to cry and they do ruin games when DEVS start catering to them.
    I'm okay with you defending Xcel30's honor, but his and your response doesn't prove dogs**t. Except you are both wrong. The Devs have a job, which they have done poorly. They aren't equipped for this game. This is a big game in my opinion, one that needs Massive Attention and yet it doesn't. The RNG is broken and has always been broken. Now just because you and a few others get everything you want and the game s**ts on everyone else is not a good thing.

    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    no, its informed , comes with own experience and yes i firmly belive it .

    now you

    do you really think that is how things work ? if you do then im afraid you gotta inform yourself as im not here to even remotely try to change your mind , this is too much like religion or politics , you decided to think that way and you are the only one who can change your own mind because you will not aceppt others views and will always dismiss them , notice how your only counter argument is that im lucky while promptly labeling the post as inflamatory , yeah , has nothing to do with smart grinding , inventory management and wasted hours on the harder dificulties.

    im not going to jump on the hate train a handfull love to ride full steam the whole time on this forum , and others for that matter , i think for my head and use my own experience and common sense when i say something , i will complain as i did in the past when i have too but you guys just exagereate all the frigging time , you are never happy about ANYTHING.
    If you being "informed" based on your experiences. You have missed the bus, Gus. We all have different experiences when it comes to the game. It doesn't play the same for all. If anything you need to stop believing the world only revolves around you and realize that there is a total playerbase out there being treated differently then you.
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    no, its informed , comes with own experience and yes i firmly belive it .

    now you

    do you really think that is how things work ? if you do then im afraid you gotta inform yourself as im not here to even remotely try to change your mind , this is too much like religion or politics , you decided to think that way and you are the only one who can change your own mind because you will not aceppt others views and will always dismiss them , notice how your only counter argument is that im lucky while promptly labeling the post as inflamatory , yeah , has nothing to do with smart grinding , inventory management and wasted hours on the harder dificulties.

    im not going to jump on the hate train a handfull love to ride full steam the whole time on this forum , and others for that matter , i think for my head and use my own experience and common sense when i say something , i will complain as i did in the past when i have too but you guys just exagereate all the frigging time , you are never happy about ANYTHING.
    Your experience has no bearing on anyone else.

    Do you honestly believe that everyone will win the lottery just because one person did? Do you think you'll win the lottery by buying your tickets in a smart way or managing their inventory right?

    RNG is luck based. It's also influenced in ways that can lock some players out. If that's intentional or not is debatable but it happens.

    Also, thanks for not getting too offended. My post reads a lot more insulting than it was meant. I was going to delete it until I saw that you'd seen it.

    I apologize for the tone. It was not meant as an insult.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    I'm okay with you defending Xcel30's honor, but his and your response doesn't prove dogs**t. Except you are both wrong. The Devs have a job, which they have done poorly. They aren't equipped for this game. This is a big game in my opinion, one that needs Massive Attention and yet it doesn't. The RNG is broken and has always been broken. Now just because you and a few others get everything you want and the game s**ts on everyone else is not a good thing.



    If you being "informed" based on your experiences. You have missed the bus, Gus. We all have different experiences when it comes to the game. It doesn't play the same for all. If anything you need to stop believing the world only revolves around you and realize that there is a total playerbase out there being treated differently then you.
    well , i wasnt defending his honour , im not his boyfriend , i just stated a very similar opinion.

    about the rest i do believe some people have more luck than others but the way you guys complain about it its unreal and cant be taken seriously ,you really believe its possible for someone to NEVER see a certain item because of RNG?

    of course not , RNG just dictates how much time it will take for both players to get it ,while one can get it on the 1st run and the other on the 20st both wil eventualyl get the item within a reasonable margin.


    start being more reasonable and objective in your complaints and im sure life will be easier.

    and no im not informed because of my experience (only),, im informed and experienced , its diferent.
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    well , i wasnt defending his honour , im not his boyfriend , i just stated a very similar opinion.

    about the rest i do believe some people have more luck than others but the way you guys complain about it its unreal and cant be taken seriously ,you really believe its possible for someone to NEVER see a certain item because of RNG?

    of course not , RNG just dictates how much time it will take for both players to get it ,while one can get it on the 1st run and the other on the 20st both wil eventualyl get the item within a reasonable margin.


    start being more reasonable and objective in your complaints and im sure life will be easier.

    and no im not informed because of my experience (only),, im informed and experienced , its diferent.
    YES, it's possible to never see an item because of RNG. That is it's very nature. There is no modifier for number of tries.
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    of course not , RNG just dictates how much time it will take for both players to get it ,while one can get it on the 1st run and the other on the 20st both wil eventualyl get the item within a reasonable margin.
    Thats strange, i grouped up with my son for a month, both of us with the same amount of hours in that month and he got 30+ exotics and i got 1.
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