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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    I know I have opened somewhere between 10 to 20 lately and get the same old, same old. Nothing new. Though I have heard others claiming they are getting new stuff all the time. The Named Gear Caches have been the same way.
    Assuming true RNG and no weighting applied: The more exotics or named items you have, the smaller the chance of getting something you don't already have. This is made worse by adding new items to the pool, which dilutes it further. Same with apparel; the more you collect, the less chance you have of getting something you don't already have.

    Unless they apply some weighting to new items? (Not sure if they do for exotics) But yeah, most results from Exotic caches go straight to the shredder.

    I did notice I got that Belmory Armor named item from a named cache BEFORE I got the item from the Season Pass track, thought the new stuff wasn't added to the pool until after you got it from the track?
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    I can attest that you can get exotics you do not have from them. I have gotten both the chameleon and the Lady Death from them, both of which I had never gotten through regular game play. Hoping for a Ninja Kneepad set from them.
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    The next time you matchmake into someone else's session, go look at their exotic walls. You might be surprised at how many people don't have all the exotics.
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    The next time you matchmake into someone else's session, go look at their exotic walls. You might be surprised at how many people don't have all the exotics.
    And that doesn't send up red flags? By this point in the game except for the very latest items....... Players should have most of the items. They may not be perfect, but they should have gotten most of them.

    My question is are the Exotic and Named Caches weighted by items you already have? For me personally, I haven't gotten a "new" item from either.
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    I got a Bullet King and a Pestilence from exotic caches for completing the SHD weekly project without previously acquiring them.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    And that doesn't send up red flags? By this point in the game except for the very latest items....... Players should have most of the items. They may not be perfect, but they should have gotten most of them.
    Seriously? Hint: not everyone plays the game as much as you or I do. Not everyone is as engaged with the game systems.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    Summit can reward you with 100 exotics caches. But seriously, does anyone who have over a thousand hours in the game actually need ANY exotic that'll come from them? How many of them are instead open cache > dismantle?

    I don't need more of the same loot, I need new loot. That's why I found the Ridgeway grind exciting.
    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    You must be getting some serious benefits volunteering in the forums. You need to remember that not everyone is getting amazing drops just for loading into the game
    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    The next time you matchmake into someone else's session, go look at their exotic walls. You might be surprised at how many people don't have all the exotics.
    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    And that doesn't send up red flags? By this point in the game except for the very latest items....... Players should have most of the items. They may not be perfect, but they should have gotten most of them.
    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    Seriously? Hint: not everyone plays the game as much as you or I do. Not everyone is as engaged with the game systems.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
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    Um, my point is that exotic caches aren't just for people with 1000 hours in the game. Plus, they're still useful for people who are fully engaged with the game - for example: https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ded-my-Memento
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    What is the purpose of these, when they just give you Exotics that you already have? I have never gotten anything new from them and at this point they are scrap material.
    Originally Posted by BrokenFire319 Go to original post
    … it was meant to provide a regular source of exotic compents for recalibration...
    Broken nailed it here. If you recall, shortly after the Bighorn was released, they had an update which, in part, significantly reduced the probability that 'reconfiguring'/rerolling an exotic would result in a god roll. It was approximately a factor of six. So where it would originally take an average of five rerolls to get your god roll, it now takes an average of thirty. Hypothetically, if you have one character with ten exotics, that projects three hundred exotics components required. Similarly, if you have four characters, each with ten exotics, that projects twelve hundred exotic components required.

    Regardless of individual determinations of opportunity cost, that's the practical math under the current weighted tables.

    The Chameleon and Acosta's are to D2 what the Caduceus was to D1.

    BTW, subsequent to 11.1, anyone who rolls with the Chameleon is advised to run comparisons with the currently dropping ones. I suspect they increased the base damage without having the change apply retroactively. I noticed a discrepancy wherein a new Chameleon with +7% DMG and maxed out second and third attributes had higher damage than a pre-11.1 one in my backpack that had +9% DMG and maxed out second and third attributes. I then identified the increase in base damage.
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    Originally Posted by RealClevers Go to original post
    I got a Bullet King and a Pestilence from exotic caches for completing the SHD weekly project without previously acquiring them.
    Yep, I got Bullet King and Diamond Back from completing the Capital Building quest on Legendary, just yesterday, with 3 random gamers!
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