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    If Massive crit is what you want, just build a quality backfire build with hazard pro and bleed resistance that equal 98% or more. You can get 60/150 crit as base and then stack up to 200% more crit damage based on just hitting shots. Even the best dark winter build only gives you 60/210 with a 50 crit damage boost on kill.
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    Originally Posted by Sock_Monkey Go to original post
    Probably my only wish would be a higher rpm, but if that were the case then CR would probably be the "meta" SMG and they'd nerf it
    It is pointless to use strained on high rpm weapons. Because you do not get strained to the max before the magazine runs out. for high rpm you should use optimist
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    Originally Posted by Imagine_Brata Go to original post
    It is pointless to use strained on high rpm weapons. Because you do not get strained to the max before the magazine runs out. for high rpm you should use optimist
    This.
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    Originally Posted by Imagine_Brata Go to original post
    It is pointless to use strained on high rpm weapons. Because you do not get strained to the max before the magazine runs out. for high rpm you should use optimist
    Weapons i have Strained on

    Cold Relations 700 RPM
    Thompson 1928 600 RPM
    Police T821 550RPM
    Tactical MK 16 625 RPM
    G36C 750 RPM
    FAL 650 RPM
    BM M60 E 500 RPM
    Military P416 750 RPM

    Weapons with Optimist

    MPX 850 RPM
    P90 900 RPM
    MP 5 A2 800 RPM
    SMG-9 A2 825 RPM
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    Originally Posted by Imagine_Brata Go to original post
    It is pointless to use strained on high rpm weapons. Because you do not get strained to the max before the magazine runs out. for high rpm you should use optimist
    how about a MG5 with 100 bullets? that would do the trick procing strained , i used to have the Stoner LAMG with strained on my negotiator build , now i use it with ranger for a change but strained was wonderful for the gear set talent as i had about 170 bullets to fire with max strained on them.
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    Originally Posted by Imagine_Brata Go to original post
    It is pointless to use strained on high rpm weapons. Because you do not get strained to the max before the magazine runs out. for high rpm you should use optimist
    I understand, of course, since Strained is time-based.

    There's zero chance of CR being updated anyway, so I was just pie-in-the-sky wishing about what I would like on Cold Relations. It'll never happen, so what harm is it?
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    so is dark winter obtainable in summit or not?
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    Originally Posted by ceder233 Go to original post
    so is dark winter obtainable in summit or not?
    No only from Dark zone or from named item cache
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    Originally Posted by Cadillac-Jack Go to original post
    Weapons i have Strained on

    Cold Relations 700 RPM
    Thompson 1928 600 RPM
    Police T821 550RPM
    Tactical MK 16 625 RPM
    G36C 750 RPM
    FAL 650 RPM
    BM M60 E 500 RPM
    Military P416 750 RPM

    Weapons with Optimist

    MPX 850 RPM
    P90 900 RPM
    MP 5 A2 800 RPM
    SMG-9 A2 825 RPM
    It looks good. they usually recommend optinist from 800-850 rpm and up
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    Originally Posted by N3mB0t Go to original post
    how about a MG5 with 100 bullets? that would do the trick procing strained , i used to have the Stoner LAMG with strained on my negotiator build , now i use it with ranger for a change but strained was wonderful for the gear set talent as i had about 170 bullets to fire with max strained on them.
    It works well with MG5. But many use a fasthand to get super fast reload speed
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