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  1. #21
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    Originally Posted by SuicideHero793 Go to original post
    Last attribute for this weapon, what do you use? CHD? Or something else?
    DtA or Dttooc
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    Out of cover for the one i use.
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    The season we just got out of had it as reward i believe around level 30 and skin we got later on, so i think it could show up in another season as reward or it could just be the season we finished and otherwise i would just recommend opening named caches when those events happen, i finally got The Virginian the other day from named cache, and have gotten 1 or 2 dark winter from named caches as well got a few back with golden bullet event.

    So if the DZ is not your thing would recommend doing events and season levels when they are available so you can get some of the exclusive or locked away weapons and such.
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    Try the Cold Relations SMG. The bonus CHD is incredibly powerful.
    I think that it is a highly under-rated SMG.
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    Do events where you gather stars, buy Named Crate for 8 stars. Last event I had 14 named caches and got 2 Dark Winters, Rock'n'Roll, Death Grips and Hollowman Mask (among other junk) which are DZ only but do show up in named caches. I think named cache is really only thing worth getting with stars, ymmv.
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    Originally Posted by Chach_QOG Go to original post
    Do events where you gather stars, buy Named Crate for 8 stars. Last event I had 14 named caches and got 2 Dark Winters, Rock'n'Roll, Death Grips and Hollowman Mask (among other junk) which are DZ only but do show up in named caches. I think named cache is really only thing worth getting with stars, ymmv.
    Oh! come on that's a load of old Clap Trap


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    Originally Posted by Deltium Go to original post
    Try the Cold Relations SMG. The bonus CHD is incredibly powerful.
    I think that it is a highly under-rated SMG.
    It's underated for a reason. Max chd will be on the last few rounds, plus it has only 2 mod slots.
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    Originally Posted by Hellbound73 Go to original post
    I've got it. It doesn't need to be in the DZ. I have gotten it a few times man. It's just running targeted loot on heroic. 😃👍
    Same here. I had at least one, possibly two I can recall, and this was well before I started going back into the DZ.

    Like others said, it's rare in the LZ, but not unobtainable.
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    Originally Posted by Deltium Go to original post
    Try the Cold Relations SMG. The bonus CHD is incredibly powerful.
    I think that it is a highly under-rated SMG.
    I agree. Assuming you start with a build that has decent CHD from the get-go, Cold Relations can be brutal.

    The key is to not rely solely on the stacks. My set has 132% CHD to start with. Not great, but good. Two seconds in (shooting) and I'm running a 172% CHD.

    It has good range and accuracy too. Probably my only wish would be a higher rpm, but if that were the case then CR would probably be the "meta" SMG and they'd nerf it.

    Oh well. Underrated. Overrated. Who cares. If it's fun, do it.
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    I had a somewhat deeper look into Strained vs. Perfectly Strained, but it was long and not about Dark Winter, so I instead started another thread for it: Using Strained, Perfectly Strained and Cold Relations.
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