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    URGENT character/team balancing !!!

    I have been playing For Honor since the Beta on PlayStation 4, but currently the game is horrible. Centurion is horrible, has no dodge or defense, the Peacekeeper is very weak, the purple characters are all very strong, as well as Orochi and Kemsei. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE PLAY AGAINST OROCHI, he is VERY STRONG. The balance of teams is also crap, in short ... A game that was once good, now is horrible.
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    Originally Posted by Fabregat Go to original post
    I have been playing For Honor since the Beta on PlayStation 4, but currently the game is horrible. Centurion is horrible, has no dodge or defense, the Peacekeeper is very weak, the purple characters are all very strong, as well as Orochi and Kemsei. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE PLAY AGAINST OROCHI, he is VERY STRONG. The balance of teams is also crap, in short ... A game that was once good, now is horrible.
    Uhhhhh impossible to play against orochi? Dude, orochi is pretty weak right now. Kensei is strong, but no where near as problematic as heroes like Conqueror, Highlander, and Shugoki are currently.

    Cent is actually decent atm. I wouldn't call him amazing but he's definitely not bad.

    Peacekeeper is indeed very weak. They gauged her way too hard. (Which is ironic, giver her signature "deep gauge".)
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    Originally Posted by Fabregat Go to original post
    I have been playing For Honor since the Beta on PlayStation 4, but currently the game is horrible. Centurion is horrible, has no dodge or defense, the Peacekeeper is very weak, the purple characters are all very strong, as well as Orochi and Kemsei. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE PLAY AGAINST OROCHI, he is VERY STRONG. The balance of teams is also crap, in short ... A game that was once good, now is horrible.
    It looks like you just had a frustrating match or two with Centurion and Orochi being the main antagonists. Actually it seems you are also naming all of the Wu-Lin and Kensei as problematic as well. The only ones in the group you mentioned I would agree with need some tweaks is possibly Kensei for having too many soft feint options and his side dodge heavy being far too safe and basically immune to GB punish and JJ but mainly just for his ludicrous parry punish stamina drain and Sifu stance being a bit too effective. Other than that I just personally find JJ annoying with his ridiculous fat old man ballerina mess... he can just be unfun to fight for me but that's totally a personal issue of mine.

    Are you just coming back to the game since the CCU came out? If so, I suggest to just give it some time to get into the flow of things and start playing a bit more aggressively and erratically as many players of your similar skill level will have trouble parrying or shutting you down out right. Other players have gotten used to the CCU and just have the upper hand on you right now which I imagine is frustrating.

    If we are talking about Dominion matches though, the best advice I could offer is just to turn off your pride desire to always be victorious because although it is by far the most popular mode, any experienced player would probably admit it is often a complete mess. Unbalanced feats and constantly getting attacked while stuck in an animation combined with the amount of unblockables and bashes and then adding in the higher than usual population of players that play oppressive heroes or heroes that have a mechanic that is easy to "cheese" with when it comes to 4s and you have a strong recipe for salt and frustration. You will eventually become numb to it and the constant bad manner and troll like behavior of a concerning percentage of people in Dom. Many of these people truly are just memeing and having fun as apposed to having anti social/sociopathic tendencies where they enjoy ruining the fun of others or making them angry. Its can be difficult or impossible to know the difference and you can be playing your at your best in Dom and still get screwed over completely out of your control so it just doesn't do yourself any good to let it get to you or discourage you.

    Think of Dom as a place to practice defense from multiple incoming attackers, a place to quickly increase hero reputation, and a place to just kind of enjoy the chaos and be entertained by the other people playing who don't follow what I am saying and give you bonus attraction throwing salt and shade around. Use duels and brawls to take things a bit more serious and show off the true extent of your reflexes and tactics in a mostly balanced environment. Just my two cents.

    If you been around since beta like myself, this game has a special place in your heart even when its at its worst or most frustrating. We all know how it is. If you have been playing for a while since the CCU and feel this way, just take break for a while bro and come back fresh. We all gotta do it from time to time and just lurk the forums in the meantime.

    Good luck, see you guys on the battlefield!
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    So, your issues on PS4 with Orochi are coming at frame rate man.
    I play on PC, at about 100 FPS. and I can tell you flat out, I have no issues dealing with the light strike spam other than against highlanders.

    When next gen systems hit and you have 60fps, your eye will pick up on the animations MUCH MUCH better and this will be resolved.

    The real heroes that are bad right now are the Warmonger's spells; followed after that by nerfing needing to be done to the Highlander, Shukogi, and Kensei in that order.
    Those three are the legit issues as far as overall kits. Warmonger simply needs a spell nerf BADLY. If you get more than one in the match, you might as well quit and requeue.
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    Originally Posted by Xavyn Go to original post
    It looks like you just had a frustrating match or two with Centurion and Orochi being the main antagonists. Actually it seems you are also naming all of the Wu-Lin and Kensei as problematic as well. The only ones in the group you mentioned I would agree with need some tweaks is possibly Kensei for having too many soft feint options and his side dodge heavy being far too safe and basically immune to GB punish and JJ but mainly just for his ludicrous parry punish stamina drain and Sifu stance being a bit too effective. Other than that I just personally find JJ annoying with his ridiculous fat old man ballerina mess... he can just be unfun to fight for me but that's totally a personal issue of mine.

    Are you just coming back to the game since the CCU came out? If so, I suggest to just give it some time to get into the flow of things and start playing a bit more aggressively and erratically as many players of your similar skill level will have trouble parrying or shutting you down out right. Other players have gotten used to the CCU and just have the upper hand on you right now which I imagine is frustrating.

    If we are talking about Dominion matches though, the best advice I could offer is just to turn off your pride desire to always be victorious because although it is by far the most popular mode, any experienced player would probably admit it is often a complete mess. Unbalanced feats and constantly getting attacked while stuck in an animation combined with the amount of unblockables and bashes and then adding in the higher than usual population of players that play oppressive heroes or heroes that have a mechanic that is easy to "cheese" with when it comes to 4s and you have a strong recipe for salt and frustration. You will eventually become numb to it and the constant bad manner and troll like behavior of a concerning percentage of people in Dom. Many of these people truly are just memeing and having fun as apposed to having anti social/sociopathic tendencies where they enjoy ruining the fun of others or making them angry. Its can be difficult or impossible to know the difference and you can be playing your at your best in Dom and still get screwed over completely out of your control so it just doesn't do yourself any good to let it get to you or discourage you.

    Think of Dom as a place to practice defense from multiple incoming attackers, a place to quickly increase hero reputation, and a place to just kind of enjoy the chaos and be entertained by the other people playing who don't follow what I am saying and give you bonus attraction throwing salt and shade around. Use duels and brawls to take things a bit more serious and show off the true extent of your reflexes and tactics in a mostly balanced environment. Just my two cents.

    If you been around since beta like myself, this game has a special place in your heart even when its at its worst or most frustrating. We all know how it is. If you have been playing for a while since the CCU and feel this way, just take break for a while bro and come back fresh. We all gotta do it from time to time and just lurk the forums in the meantime.

    Good luck, see you guys on the battlefield!
    Ugh. I hate all the complaints about Kensei lately because he's been my main boy for a long time now, and for a long time, he was considered incredibly balanced.

    The biggest reason for me to hate all the complaints is because I know the most common complaint is totally true.

    The side dodge heavy is too safe. There, I, a Kensei main, admit, that it needs to be nerfed.

    I actually made an entire thread called "nerf my main boy" about how safe the move is.

    I hate thinking I'm only "good" because of a cheap move. It isn't a good feeling. Thankfully I have a number of heroes I enjoy so it isn't just Kensei. Still sucks to think my main boy has become a cheapo. It wasn't an issue pre ccu.
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    Originally Posted by Eidetik Go to original post
    So, your issues on PS4 with Orochi are coming at frame rate man.
    I play on PC, at about 100 FPS. and I can tell you flat out, I have no issues dealing with the light strike spam other than against highlanders.

    When next gen systems hit and you have 60fps, your eye will pick up on the animations MUCH MUCH better and this will be resolved.

    The real heroes that are bad right now are the Warmonger's spells; followed after that by nerfing needing to be done to the Highlander, Shukogi, and Kensei in that order.
    Those three are the legit issues as far as overall kits. Warmonger simply needs a spell nerf BADLY. If you get more than one in the match, you might as well quit and requeue.
    Mmmmmmmmmm can't wait for 60fps on Xbox Series X... *drools*
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    Balance? Devs dont know what it is... try play warden vs jj, kensei, oe hiperarmors clas. Ahh and stuoit skils on dominions have 0 balance.
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    Balance? Devs dont know what it is... try play warden vs jj, kensei, or hiperarmors clas. Ahh and stupid skils in the dominions have 0 balance. But devs... give a **** 5 years
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