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[Cadillac-Jack]

Thank you for the tips. I will have to farm for the 4 bulwark pieces (hopefully RNG is kind enough to drop good ones) I have the pistols and I think I have a few talents in my library that I can use. I'll take a look. I am on xbox. Thanks again for the tips.

AS a follow on with a tank shield build you do give up alot of fire power but, you will survive, but just be careful of NPC's trying to flank, if they get behind you you'll die (black tusk/True Sons are the tricky ones), you can even back yousrelf into a corner if need be (because the shield will take whatever is thrown at it) for the most part.

Oh and on the shield build (Armouir Regen/ and some Hazard protection are good.

if you have a turret/Drone build that'll be a good starter as well.

But and this is paramount you have to learn how to play on Heroic, differently from what you are used to, the NPC's hit harder/are harder to take down and are way more aggressive.

If you prefer all red CHC/CHD builds then it's even more important you play differently than you have been because of the low armour you'll have.

Once you get used to Heroic then you can start on more builds or upgrade, loot is definitely better.

PS: i'll put up a clip of the damage it can take just so you can get an idea. After the Maintenance

[Sircowdog1]

What build do you have? Obviously this is the difference in Outcome for different player performance. Be useful fir peps to post their build when commenting on difficulty

Once again I feel it's important to point out that build is only part of the equation. You can solo heroic with all purple gear if you're good enough. Not to mention that a build one person uses won't necessarily be good for someone else. A LOT depends on what you're comfortable and good with.

[Sircowdog1]

Oh and on the shield build (Armouir Regen/ and some Hazard protection are good.

You know, I've been meaning to try a 4pc FB build with 1pc Belstone, and the new Memento Backpack. I figure even a 3/3 split would be really good. Maybe even going as far as a 2blue, 4 red technician, since the shield will end up being tier 4 from from Backpack and the spec. It almost feels like overkill on the regen, but it might turn out to be a good hybrid of damage and survivability, even with a crusader shield. Bulwark with the Kard pistol would bump the shield to tier 5. But.....pistol dps...uhg.

[Cadillac-Jack]

You know, I've been meaning to try a 4pc FB build with 1pc Belstone, and the new Memento Backpack. I figure even a 3/3 split would be really good. Maybe even going as far as a 2blue, 4 red technician, since the shield will end up being tier 4 from from Backpack and the spec. It almost feels like overkill on the regen, but it might turn out to be a good hybrid of damage and survivability, even with a crusader shield. Bulwark with the Kard pistol would bump the shield to tier 5. But.....pistol dps...uhg.

Yeah the Kardi is weak i suppose but i'll say but the 1 skill tier is great so you could put another red on and The Menento back pack gives extra damage so it would bump the pistol as well, what i would say is the Liberty or a D50 hit harder full stop.

A D50 with in-sync just as good mostly.

this is my clip from today just showing IgotNerfed what the build could do (i don't have the Memento yet)

Please take note this is NOT about killing in two seconds it's about survivability. (we all know you have to give up firepower to be a Tank.

Several things to take notice of.

Shield health/Regeneration
My Armour regenration
All the Talents Proccing on screen. (which is where Kinetic momentum/Safeguard/Articifer hive and In-Siync) all complement each other. (there are other routes to shield builds as well though.)

And the funny bit is the last NPC telling me to Eat dirt as he faceplants the Floor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_YiH5RHOms

It's on Heroic and i don't have a Liberty or D50 so i'm using the Kard for now.

PS: The shield is only on 14 mil health with a bit of maxing or all blue it'll go upto 17 mill+ health. (also a bit of Explosive résistance is a must)

And yes i know my aim is crap

[III_Hammer_III]

Because logic. There's a difference between someone literally being unable to do it, and someone just not wanting to do it.

Well, sure, but I am speaking in general terms, not on single player motivation.

The game doesn't stop a player from soloing legendary. There is nothing that prevents a person from doing it besides the willingness to put in the time and assemble the build and learn the skills.

Not true.

No, not really. I just used myself as an example to illustrate my point. 've done similar challenges in other games. I'm a huge fan of hardcore modes in games like Diablo 2 and 3. I've done deathless runs in both Dark Souls 1 and 3. I have no doubt that I could do it if I decided to sit down and put in the time.

So, again, all about you... Yet again, I am speaking in general terms.

What I was illustrating was a situation where a person is capable, but simply doesn't CHOOSE to do it.

And yet again, I am not talking about that.

You made the claim that the game's primary focus was co-op. You back it up with evidence. It is not self-evident, since the game's mechanics support both solo and group play. And the fact of the matter is that only the raids literally prevent soloing.

It is very self evident that the focus of the game is co-op, unless you want to be obtuse and say it isn't..

I used to play this MMO in which I was able to complete 5 man dungeons by myself. Did that make that MMO single player-centric? No.

Now I already agreed that soloing is generally more difficult. But I chalk that up to the incompetence of the devs

No. You chalk that up to the game being a co-op game at its core.

Maybe that's splitting hairs, or semantics, but that's how I view it based on their history. So unless you have something concrete where the advertisements or official description of the game explicitly states "Co-Op focus", then I don't accept it.

That's cool. Some people don't accept the Earth is round.

[LateNiteDelight]

Pistol DPS is actually pretty solid - they're short range rifles with a smaller mag! I like the X-45 or Kard for Legendary, Lightning Rod for easier stuff. Liberty if you're not using the Artificer [tier 6 Bulwark + Artificer can tank a Legendary Chunga].

The problem you're feeling, is the loss of WD cores.

[BrokenFire319]

Thank you for the tips. I will have to farm for the 4 bulwark pieces (hopefully RNG is kind enough to drop good ones) I have the pistols and I think I have a few talents in my library that I can use. I'll take a look. I am on xbox. Thanks again for the tips.

Holler at me sometime. I will help you grind out some gear on Xbox! Gamer tag: BrokenFire319

[LateNiteDelight]

You know, I've been meaning to try a 4pc FB build with 1pc Belstone, and the new Memento Backpack. I figure even a 3/3 split would be really good. Maybe even going as far as a 2blue, 4 red technician, since the shield will end up being tier 4 from from Backpack and the spec. It almost feels like overkill on the regen, but it might turn out to be a good hybrid of damage and survivability, even with a crusader shield. Bulwark with the Kard pistol would bump the shield to tier 5. But.....pistol dps...uhg.

I am stuck on Challenging because nothing is dropping that can make my build better to step up a level and if I do try to step up a level I get insta dead. I have 60% CHC and 153% CHD and this alone is not enough to solo anything higher difficulty than Challenging. Every game I have played has dropped better gear to help me step up to the next level and not drop gear suitable for the level I am on. This is backwards.

What talents are you using?

When I first jumped to Heroic, I used Unbreakable [3 "free" armor tiers] with Bloodsucker or Clutch. Also, Revive Hive. Gives you the ability to recover from mistakes as you get used to the different gameplay. Striker Drone or Assault Turret help pull agro off you.

Also, pause between sets so your skills/unbreakable can reset before starting the next fight and make sure to change cover when needed.

[III_Hammer_III]

I am stuck on Challenging because nothing is dropping that can make my build better to step up a level and if I do try to step up a level I get insta dead. I have 60% CHC and 153% CHD and this alone is not enough to solo anything higher difficulty than Challenging. Every game I have played has dropped better gear to help me step up to the next level and not drop gear suitable for the level I am on. This is backwards.

When you play solo, you either need to be able to melt more than 1 NPC at the time, or need something to take aggro away from you.

The current LOL, melt more than 1 NPC at the time build is Eclipse Protocol, preferably with a Vile mask, with 6 skill tiers. Hit one or 2 NPCs with the firestarter chem launcher, double tap E, watch everything else but hounds and heavies melt, then watch everything that spawns catch fire and melt away too. You want to have Perpetuation on your gun, or even a Pestilence if you have one. Elite N PCs are harder to hit with the chem launcher, but there is a trick to it. If you shoot the chem charge off center they would roll to one side, shoot off center again, and they will roll right back into the first chem cloud.

If skills as your main build are not your style, you already have more than enough CHC and CHD. so you need something to take aggro from you and do some damage at the same time. Turret+drone works great. Both take aggro from you, and the drone, because it gets close to its target, it makes NPCs turn away from you, which makes it much easier to hit weak points.The only trick here is letting your turret and drone hit first. Spark on chest works great.

These are but a few ways you can get through challenging content without much issue or grinding. And should be able to take you through heroic as well.

[Xtorma]

How is it false? I do not have the RNG to solo anything higher than challenging and If I step up a level my gear is useless and I die before a piece of gear drops. This makes the game unplayable for me at anything higher than challenging because the gear I need is refusing to drop.

I have some god rolled weapons but maybe 2 pieces of completely god rolled gear and 1 of those is a rainbow and the other is Armor which is helpful.

It's false because everyone who promoted themselves from challenging to heroic solo, did it with drops they acquired from lower level gameplay. You can solo heroic with all gear pieces less than 50% rolls. I know , i did it myself. The game is NOT unplayable on higher difficulties with gear from lower difficulties, because if that were the case than NOBODY would have ever made the jump in difficulty. Why is this so hard to comprehend.

What makes higher level content unplayable for people is failure to understand mechanics , and lack of skill/knowledge. Get off your victim train and take responsibility for your own inadequacies.