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    I think the post was intended to highlight the fact that the "effect" was not designed with health and safety in mind, and maybe should be revisited before someone suffers a convulsion.
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    When "all the hassle" is becoming physically ill because of a visual effect, that's not something a gamer should have to decide on, there should be a way to disable that visual effect.
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    I run it on a build w 99.4% bleed res and the bleed never hits me.
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    Originally Posted by ink3pointoh Go to original post
    I run it on a build w 99.4% bleed res and the bleed never hits me.
    That's cool, very cool. Now, how's the game doing for you? Have you see an improvement in your game play? Are you killing things faster? Do you survive longer? Are you using less armor plates? Can you solo legendary... (ok.. that's too much)
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    Originally Posted by Deathlyhearts Go to original post
    You guys know what optional means, right? Right? It's not like anyone is pointing a gun to your head and forcing you to use that weapon. Jeez. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's a gimmick weapon that requires you to change your build and play style around it. Some people like that. If you don't, that's perfectly fine. No, they won't change it and they shouldn't, stop being special and realize already that just because you don't like something it doesn't mean it should be changed around your preference.
    lol chill out .. nobody is saying the game is bad or wanting it changed for them.... I have played games from the speccy days , a loooong time , and this game is the first to show me how a game can make you ill, if it does this short time what would it be like long term ?.. Some may not feel the effect straight away ?. and may feel it after playing ..

    No no one is pointing a gun at me forcing me to use it , but it is part of the game and a part i farmed for , if you picked up a weapon in real life and it made you bleed you would soon drop it ,and look for something else..

    This is a stupid effect and a stupid idea adding negative effects to weapons .. if the talent is to strong then just weaken the talent , do not add negative effects it is just plain stupid ... and the gun is no better than any other smg, it just had a nice skin that looked good with my build ... But like i say it is now hung up in the junk wall for exotics ..
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    Originally Posted by hyper---sniper Go to original post
    lol chill out .. nobody is saying the game is bad or wanting it changed for them.... I have played games from the speccy days , a loooong time , and this game is the first to show me how a game can make you ill, if it does this short time what would it be like long term ?.. Some may not feel the effect straight away ?. and may feel it after playing ..

    No no one is pointing a gun at me forcing me to use it , but it is part of the game and a part i farmed for , if you picked up a weapon in real life and it made you bleed you would soon drop it ,and look for something else..

    This is a stupid effect and a stupid idea adding negative effects to weapons .. if the talent is to strong then just weaken the talent , do not add negative effects it is just plain stupid ... and the gun is no better than any other smg, it just had a nice skin that looked good with my build ... But like i say it is now hung up in the junk wall for exotics ..
    Well I would say people can use their better judgement in such case where the effects makes them ill. That's not the only effect by far that can have negative reaction with some people. Most games nowadays have a very prominent warning about this when you first start them, this one included.

    The effect is there by design. Asking to remove it is effectively asking them to change the weapon, despite you saying the opposite. Once more -- there is a way for you to completely neglect and never trigger that effect. That is by using a specific piece of another exotic gear, namely the Ninjabike knee pads. The options are there for you to use them, but you don't want to. You want only the positives without any drawbacks and that doesn't fit with that weapon design.

    Like you said it's hardly the best SMG around, so leave this one to people who like such designs and like to experiment with building around them.

    I for one welcome more creative designs. Everything would be so boring if the answer always was -- just nerf it if it's too strong. Massive tried something different with this gun and I applaud them for it. Evidently it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea and that's fine. There is plenty more gear in the game.
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    All they need to do is have an option in the game settings for stuff like this that effects some people.
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    Originally Posted by Deathlyhearts Go to original post
    Well I would say people can use their better judgement in such case where the effects makes them ill. That's not the only effect by far that can have negative reaction with some people. Most games nowadays have a very prominent warning about this when you first start them, this one included.

    The effect is there by design. Asking to remove it is effectively asking them to change the weapon, despite you saying the opposite. Once more -- there is a way for you to completely neglect and never trigger that effect. That is by using a specific piece of another exotic gear, namely the Ninjabike knee pads. The options are there for you to use them, but you don't want to. You want only the positives without any drawbacks and that doesn't fit with that weapon design.

    Like you said it's hardly the best SMG around, so leave this one to people who like such designs and like to experiment with building around them.

    I for one welcome more creative designs. Everything would be so boring if the answer always was -- just nerf it if it's too strong. Massive tried something different with this gun and I applaud them for it. Evidently it's not going to be everyone's cup of tea and that's fine. There is plenty more gear in the game.
    Yes the effect is by design , and they can change it. . the game is made to be PLAYED by players from ALL walks of life , even the warnings do not let you know how bad it can be , and some effects can be dangerous to some players..

    this is NOT a creative design it is a wobble to help players get killed , and nothing ,more, the screen turning red in enough to say you have bleed , when i bleed the room does not wobble ?. so why in the game..

    I can only use one exotic gear piece at a time so using ninja is not an option , it would break my build.. and yes the options is their for me to choose and i choose not to use the backfire , end of story..

    To be honest this effects we have in this game now are just cheap and dirty tricks as they have run out of GOOD ideas ..
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    Originally Posted by hyper---sniper Go to original post
    and yes the options is their for me to choose and i choose not to use the backfire , end of story..
    Exactly what I've been saying from the start.

    And yes the game is for people from all walks of life. Thus not every design with fit EVERY player.

    Just don't use the thing if you don't like it. End of story. Yes, it's, as simple as that.
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    Originally Posted by Deathlyhearts Go to original post
    Exactly what I've been saying from the start.

    And yes the game is for people from all walks of life. Thus not every design with fit EVERY player.

    Just don't use the thing if you don't like it. End of story. Yes, it's, as simple as that.
    lol like i say chill out, i said before you replied that i do not use it now, you jumped in thinking i was trashing the game ?.. But i do not need to do that they do it themselves ...
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