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    Disappointed with the way this game is going

    After months of waiting, I finally went to test the "new" RAID and the disappointment was great, by far the first RAID is better, the proof is that it is much more difficult to find a match for Iron Horse than for Dark Hours, the guys want do something complex and don't even have an explanation of what to do? Damn, in the old raid there is already an old player who has not yet learned all the mechanics that he thinks is just to enter and shoot everything, then the developers go and create a worse one and there is no explanation of what to do, it is extremely boring , as well as all the "challenges" that are creating lately like The Summit, legendary mode and now this RAID.

    I know you don’t hear what your consumers want, but I’ll still give my opinion on how I THINK this game can improve, win more players, keep those I already have and fill the company’s coffers:

    1-) Multiplatform, should work on this so that players from all platforms (Xbox, PS and PC) can play together (ex: Call Duty), this would greatly increase the useful life and interest in the game.

    2-) Congratulations on the missions in story and solo mode, here you are getting it right, always try to add a mission or new area and they are correct, here is the heart of the game and what keeps it alive, you just have to improve the game's history , a game with a good, solid story, without changing all the time, depending on the moment, helps to maintain interest in the game, especially for SOLOS players who are certainly at least 80% of this game.

    3-) Stop inventing new ways and improve the ones you already have, I expected a lot more from The Summit, it was better to have only 20 floors and be a lot more elaborate than having 100 and being boring this way, I'll give you some suggestions on how improve modes:

    a) Why not make a RAID for each faction? RAIDs are fun because of the COMPETITION between the players and it is there that you can test the efficiency of the builds, so do not do anything complex, or better, do, but give explanations of what to do in it and also release the Normal mode of RAIDS for ALL players.

    b) Invasion mode in the existing RAID, although after eliminating each boss in each area, there should be a chance (25%) of a different faction to appear that the agents are facing, wanting to take over the place, ex: Dark Hours controlled by Black Tusk, after defeating Boomer or Weasel or Lucy and Buddy and even Razorback, have this chance to appear or Hyenas or True Sounds or Outcasts or Rikers or Cleaners and even better: have a 10% chance of appearing Rogues agents or Hunters , that is, at the end of each area, there should be a chance for a faction to appear trying to take control of the place and if the agents failed to defeat this new faction or hunters and rogues, they would return from the beginning of RAID.

    c) Dark zone and PVP, obviously The Division 2 is a PVE game, I with more than a thousand hours never interested in entering the PVP and I was disappointed with the Dark Zone, so that 3 Dark Zone if in the end the mechanics and practically identical? There should be a Dark Zone where agents can explore it however they want without the option of becoming a rogue agent, that is, exploring, farming, doing missions, defeating factions, etc; the other could only have rogues agents (both players and NPCs) but in this Dark Zone it would not be the agents who would choose to be rogues agents, but the game itself would put a target on their backs and be hunted by the other players, in addition to having to face the NPCs rogues and in the last Dark Zone everything should be released: all factions, players becoming rogues, hunters, npcs rogues, etc ... that is, a real war zone that would have some valuable reward in the end.

    d) Unfortunately, PVP does not attract me, I never played so I have no basis to give an opinion on how to improve, I leave this to someone more qualified and experienced who likes this game mode.

    4-) Builds, work the builds better, especially those of the sets that are not attractive as they should be, nor putting the four parts together, who will say the six ... and exotic items should have TWO talents instead of one, after all it only gives to use one, so make it more attractive than the rest of the equipment.

    5-) Listen to what your players are asking for and PLEASE test and play the game before updating, at Iron Horse, for example, there is a time when my agent stops the floor, moving, as if there is an obstacle on the floor and there is not, something irritating and that gets in the way of a frantic game like RAIDs, and speaking of them, do not forget that the fun in this mode should be aimed at killing enemies and not be solving complicated puzzles, let this for story mode.

    6) Hugs ...
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    Originally Posted by L3AND80 Go to original post
    5-) Listen to what your players are asking for
    I'm just going to highlight that:

    - some people are dead against raids in this game
    - lots of people complained about Dark Hours being just a DPS check, now you're complaining about Iron Horse being too complicated for people
    - there have been plenty of threads about a PvE "dark zone" with widespread disagreement on whether that is a good idea

    TL;DR - not everyone playing this game wants the same things
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    I'm just going to highlight that:

    - some people are dead against raids in this game
    - lots of people complained about Dark Hours being just a DPS check, now you're complaining about Iron Horse being too complicated for people
    - there have been plenty of threads about a PvE "dark zone" with widespread disagreement on whether that is a good idea

    TL;DR - not everyone playing this game wants the same things
    And like the troll you are, you just took what he said out of context to fit your narrative. He said "Listen to what your players are asking for and PLEASE test and play the game before updating."

    TL;DR - still a troll.
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    Originally Posted by Yuk_Yuk_Yuk Go to original post
    And like the troll you are, you just took what he said out of context to fit your narrative. He said "Listen to what your players are asking for and PLEASE test and play the game before updating."

    TL;DR - still a troll.
    I mean, you're the one going around calling people trolls, and offering nothing to the discussion. Everything I've highlighted has numerous threads demonstrating that there is disagreement on the topics mentioned.

    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ith-in-Massive
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...e-of-new-raids
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...e-me-otherwise
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    I mean, you're the one going around calling people trolls, and offering nothing to the discussion. Everything I've highlighted has numerous threads demonstrating that there is disagreement on the topics mentioned.

    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ith-in-Massive
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...e-of-new-raids
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...e-me-otherwise
    Just ignore Dumb_Dumb_Dumb and move on! All his 216 posts are either complaining or picking fights with others, yet he continue to call others trolls. It's quite amusing and sad at the same time. He is pretty special.
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    Originally Posted by dagrommit Go to original post
    I mean, you're the one going around calling people trolls, and offering nothing to the discussion. Everything I've highlighted has numerous threads demonstrating that there is disagreement on the topics mentioned.

    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...ith-in-Massive
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...e-of-new-raids
    https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...e-me-otherwise
    The OP's topic you highlighted is about Massive's continual failures and ignoring players' calls for them to test their stuff properly before pushing it out in updates. None of those posts has anything to do with that. Like I already pointed out, you quoted only a part of it and then took it out of context to fit your BS narrative.

    Originally Posted by Deathlyhearts Go to original post
    Just ignore Dumb_Dumb_Dumb and move on! All his 216 posts are either complaining or picking fights with others, yet he continue to call others trolls. It's quite amusing and sad at the same time. He is pretty special.
    I guess you speak from experience since your 800+ posts are mostly just that - picking fights. You're one of the biggest trolls in this forum.
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    aaaaand...... the thread derailed!

    WELP
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    There is some good feedback in this thread, so let's try to keep things on track.
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    Originally Posted by UbiFate Go to original post
    There is some good feedback in this thread, so let's try to keep things on track.
    Finally. A mod that doesn't lock a whole thread because of one person. We needed you years ago in TD1. lol

    I'm subscribing to this thread because I'm interested in honest replies to the OP. I'm not interested in people's opinions about if the questions should be allowed or not.
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    Originally Posted by Yuk_Yuk_Yuk Go to original post
    The OP's topic you highlighted is about Massive's continual failures and ignoring players' calls for them to test their stuff properly before pushing it out in updates. None of those posts has anything to do with that. Like I already pointed out, you quoted only a part of it and then took it out of context to fit your BS narrative.
    The same OP which talked about the raids and the DZ, and where he stated his ideas would save the game? The same ideas that are contentious, to say the least?

    I'll note that you still haven't offered any of your thoughts on those topics.

    Originally Posted by mckrackin5324 Go to original post
    I'm subscribing to this thread because I'm interested in honest replies to the OP. I'm not interested in people's opinions about if the questions should be allowed or not.
    There's a difference between saying "nobody should talk about this" and "these ideas have been discussed before, and there is no universal agreement on them".
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