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[biomag83]

You can manually select polygons up to a certain height.
Delete those and sculpt around the polygons that will be closer to the end of the sleeve, to give the impression they were folded.
This is what Undersiege productions team done with some of their assets in arma 3 mod.

Yeah, I know how it works Still to get the best performance result you would try to add the sleeve variation to the texture sheet of the shirt, so that you don't have to load an additional set of textures just because of the shortend sleeves. Typically well done texture sheets use up as much of the sheet as possible (though there are some other things to take into account that might make them less tightly packed - for example sometimes shaders require a certain alignment of UV-sets or you want to keep a certain texel-density to have a more equal texture quality across the asset,...).

As I said it is doable, but to reach the expected qualiy in an AAA game you would go back to the 3d sculpt (high poly asset), make the changes there, do all the bakes based of a properly pack uv-layout and rebuild the textures from there. Ideally not adding new texture sets to the game to reduce what needs to be loaded into memory on runtime. If done smartly you would just have to add the cuffs to the existing texture sheet, but again it depends if you can get them there at all - and if you have to change the UV-layout you basically have to re-bake and re-texutre the whole thing



Edit: Keep also in mind moders can do whatever they want. They don't have to make sure they pass console certifications, while Sony/MS check games to make sure minimum performance requirements are met. That's why modders don't optimize as much as studios (natuarlly they are also limited by not having access to the engine and original high res models and whatnot - so they have to work around issues).

[ArgimonEd]

The team I mentioned done like this.
Changed the sleeves the way I mentioned and done a new UV map for that shirt.
The result is actually better than what we currently have in BP and several AAA games.
Now that the team merged with RHS and are using scanning technology, the quality grew exponentially.
And their 3D artist does most of the sleeve variations like this.
Siege A would do the UV map variations.
This saves time and the results are really good quality wise.

[biomag83]

The team I mentioned done like this.
Changed the sleeves the way I mentioned and done a new UV map for that shirt.
The result is actually better than what we currently have in BP and several AAA games.
Now that the team merged with RHS and are using scanning technology, the quality grew exponentially.
And their 3D artist does most of the sleeve variations like this.
Siege A would do the UV map variations.
This saves time and the results are really good quality wise.

Yeah, makes sense. I just guess it doesn't make financial sense for Ubisoft (as it would require a lot of manhours to change all the assets - not always justifiable for a company contrary to modders)

Scanning is also a interesting way of doing stuff. I know that Naughty Dog has been using scans to some degree. Basically if you can get a scan of real life items it can speed up the creation process to some degree. Scanning is far from a solution for everything, but i can make certain initial parts of the asset production easier

[Edcrophilia]

It's kind of sad when you think about it really.

There are, 4(?) (Rolled sleeves, bodark top, bodark coat, and Mitchell top)Tops in game with rolled sleeves and only one that you can customize the color.

[Steven527]

I am less concerned about what they didn't include than I am about what they decided to change for no apparent freakin reason

What do you mean I have to wear a freakin BELT!!!

[red2smok]

Given the myriad of issues title has, rolling of sleeves is way down list

Let’s get the basics sorted first, wait that should of been via testing prior to release

Keep the bs cosmetics etc and make game playable as I should of been upon release, here we are 1yr into this and it’s still chit sandwich

[ArgimonEd]

We are not saying it's more important.
We are just talking about what WE want to discuss.
The same way you are on your right to complain about us complaining about this.
We are on our right to ignore you and continue to discuss whatever we want.

[Megalodon26]

Given the myriad of issues title has, rolling of sleeves is way down list

Let’s get the basics sorted first, wait that should of been via testing prior to release

Keep the bs cosmetics etc and make game playable as I should of been upon release, here we are 1yr into this and it’s still chit sandwich

You do realize that the devs that are responsible for creating game content, fixing bugs, and even creating models for rolled up sleeves, are not the same people, right? They might not even all work in France, the way Ubi farms work out to their smaller studios.

[red2smok]

Quality control
Or lack of

Regardless of whom completed mod, verification of change to ensure zero impact on existing code

If it has ubi labeL then they are responsible for customer satisfaction....... or not


Intent was not to slight suggestion of rolled sleeves

Less customization is better imho ya don’t need 50 poorly modeled guns, 10 done to perfection would be preferable for most

Sniper elite has the min of everything, but excels in game play and immersion

Not trying to minimize your discussion, nor am I complaining

Don’t want ubi doing sleeves thinking it will placate chit sandwich they served up

[Steven527]

Not trying to minimize your discussion, nor am I complaining

Don’t want ubi doing sleeves thinking it will placate chit sandwich they served up

Doesn't matter. They aren't listening to any of us anyway.