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  1. #1

    Warden needs a slight buff

    Cant dodge quick bash into chain light combos cuz 2nd light hits you... cant trade cuz no hyperarmor... only top unblockable/crushing counter pressure... slow lights without being enhanced...

    Wardens in a bad state.

    What i think he needs:

    Crushing counter on all sides like BP & Highlander. Remove the guaranteed light follow up, give him CC on sides.

    Speed up 2nd light in combo chain from different side. Enhance his first light so he doesnt get stuffed so easily & he can continue his offense.

    Hyperarmor on heavy side finishers so he can trade.


    Warmonger has all this **** + a lot more in her kit. Why is Warden currently a rudimentary fighter still?
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    Warden ain’t really in a bad state, he still pretty much is the top duelist in the game.
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    Originally Posted by Gaser. Go to original post
    Warden ain’t really in a bad state, he still pretty much is the top duelist in the game.
    But people maining him are in a bad state, they are not used to opponents actually fighting back.
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    But people maining him are in a bad state, they are not used to opponents actually fighting back.
    Not used to the 100ms garbage*

    I'll repeat it for you again. Warden is the only Vanguard without soft feints, hyper armor on attacks, or light finishers.

    Not to mention his butchered feats except for Thick Blood.
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    Originally Posted by Lord.Warden. Go to original post
    Not used to the 100ms garbage*

    I'll repeat it for you again. Warden is the only Vanguard without soft feints, hyper armor on attacks, or light finishers.

    Not to mention his butchered feats except for Thick Blood.
    Warmonger has no light finisher either (not like they have any advantage, not completing your chain is literally the same framewise). Warmonger has no softfeint either. You have hyperarmor on the charged bash. His feats are okay, they are just a bit more down to earth. If you want to complain about the best duelist being bad, at the very least bring up points that aren't debunked in one sentence.

    And yes, not used to people attacking back.
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    Warmonger has no light finisher either (not like they have any advantage, not completing your chain is literally the same framewise). Warmonger has no softfeint either. You have hyperarmor on the charged bash. His feats are okay, they are just a bit more down to earth. If you want to complain about the best duelist being bad, at the very least bring up points that aren't debunked in one sentence.

    And yes, not used to people attacking back.
    If you want proof that people are in general upset with many changes, you've just gotta go and look at the number of people playing. It has gone down by around 2000 and it's only the second week of this season.
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    Originally Posted by abhinandan991 Go to original post
    If you want proof that people are in general upset with many changes, you've just gotta go and look at the number of people playing. It has gone down by around 2000 and it's only the second week of this season.
    I keep my eye on player numbers and I can tell you that we have our normal downtime’s and uptimes numbers again, pretty sure we even have a slight increase.
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    Originally Posted by abhinandan991 Go to original post
    If you want proof that people are in general upset with many changes, you've just gotta go and look at the number of people playing. It has gone down by around 2000 and it's only the second week of this season.
    I don't want proof about some bad players being upset, I believe you. Dogs are upset too when you prevent them eating your shoes. That doesn't prove you should let them.
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    Originally Posted by abhinandan991 Go to original post
    If you want proof that people are in general upset with many changes, you've just gotta go and look at the number of people playing. It has gone down by around 2000 and it's only the second week of this season.
    I already proved for honor is healthy with some real numbers about the concurrent players for the two weeks events for the three platforms in may
    796000 in that month

    if you want to truly know the minimum in your platform and faction for a period of 7 days, just do the minimum to appear in the ranks of the event, like 1 match and never touch it again, at the last day your ranking being the last should show you the number of players (concurrent) in that 7 day period for your faction. that´s the minimum, others don´t even touch the events, others may do the minimum also so we would need to resignate to use the bottom ranks as a crude aproximation.

    about steam, you must need to understand that the number that appears is the average for the last count, they are periodic, it never shows the number of different accounts playing for the entire day or week or month, the concurrent players each time you see the counter are not the same every hour. also Uplay and epic have players but they don´t show their numbers.

    right now my projection is 800 k to 1 million concurrent players for a two week time frame, for the three platforms, but I(or many others) would need to compile the numbers of the current event to make an aproximation.
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    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    Warmonger has no light finisher either (not like they have any advantage, not completing your chain is literally the same framewise). Warmonger has no softfeint either. You have hyperarmor on the charged bash. His feats are okay, they are just a bit more down to earth. If you want to complain about the best duelist being bad, at the very least bring up points that aren't debunked in one sentence.

    And yes, not used to people attacking back.
    How is he the best duelist? Cuz of dash back shoulder bash? Lmao what a joke.

    Did you forget Warmonger has instant hyper armor on heavy finishers so she can trade...??
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