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[xX_RobinHood_Xx]

Didn't want to join in on this thread but i have to say console is more difficult to kill enemies due to the controller compared to a mouse, less pinpoint accuracy...and lets not forget the big difference in FPS.

Pulling of a headshot on p.c is very easy, not so easy on console, same goes for hit boxes.

Not at all, i play on pc now and with a ps4 controller. What's helping it's the FPS. 160fps on pc.
Like i said in Lyrical Fighter video few days ago, these 2 games were meant to play on pc and not on console, unless we had 60fps, but we don't. I play division 2 on my ps4 yesterday.. 10 min... i was getting sick of the slow motion.


Look at my headshot from miles away (ps4) at 1:42

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[Deltium]

I agree, and many of us saw this coming with the huge buff to almost EVERY weapon, etc. in TU10. Heroic has become far too easy, especially solo, when pre-TU10, it was reasonably scaled, and if it was too difficult for a portion of the community, then Challenging or Hard was always there for the "casual" player.

It is really perplexing to me why the "expectation" is that Heroic mode is for almost everybody, when we have THREE, yes three levels before Heroic for new, or less-experienced players to join. If you do indeed invest the time and thought into your builds and Agent, you are then really only left with Legendary, which is very limited content indeed.

As I have said before, a game benefits from ALL players having an ecosystem whereby each can be adquately challenged at their own difficulty level. I would strongly suggest that Massive consider buffs to the NPCs, via either better tactics, a higher quanitty per mission, or higher damage at the Heroic level only.

[Oatiecrumble]

Not at all, i play on pc now and with a ps4 controller. What's helping it's the FPS. 160fps on pc.
Like i said in Lyrical Fighter video few days ago, these 2 games were meant to play on pc and not on console, unless we had 60fps, but we don't. I play division 2 on my ps4 yesterday.. 10 min... i was getting sick of the slow motion.


Look at my headshot from miles away (ps4) at 1:42

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You can't really say that it's easy to pull off HS's on console just because you hit a single person in your video, pulling of HS's in lets say DUC on legendary or pretty much any PVE mission where there is multiple enemies is going to be a lot easier on p.c + mouse, or even p.c + contoller due to the smooth FPS.

Anyway this convo is all over the web so it's run it's course i suppose

[Adze.]

So make it more difficult. Only use pistols or don't use any skills. If I think it's too difficult, there's nothing I can do about it.

Then play on challenging... That's why we have difficulty tiers.

Heroic is so easy now for established players and the rewards are so poor that it isn't worth bothering with any more.

Some of us are left with just legendaries and some boring raid.

And no, directives don't make it any better. For a start as soon as someone joins a group with directives enabled, 9 times out of 10 they leave.

They need to add more content for the more able players IMO. Maybe a new tier above heroic or just add more legendary content. Queue the whining...

Of course we wouldn't have this problem if all tiers dropped the same quality loot because poor players could then just stick to a difficulty they can manage.

It's fun carrying people early on but it gets old fast.

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You can't really say that it's easy to pull off HS's on console just because you hit a single person in your video, pulling of HS's in lets say DUC on legendary or pretty much any PVE mission where there is multiple enemies is going to be a lot easier on p.c + mouse, or even p.c + contoller due to the smooth FPS.

Anyway this convo is all over the web so it's run it's course i suppose

This game should be balanced differently for console and PC. I can't understand why it isn't.

Because that is why we are where we are now - console players are struggling with Heroic, controller and 30FPS!