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[b3asty_]

Originally posted by KillaJules:
Super-Pershing does 14 dps to King Tiger whereas King Tiger does 25 dps to S-P. Speed doesn't count for much in a duel unless the S-P is at the very tip of range. To match King Tiger in a duel you must outspend him with S-Ps. On the 'Why Super Pershing OP?' thread someone did a test and showed that it isn't cost-effective beating King Tigers with S-Ps.

tiger will get raped by pershings if u dont watch out.. and thats a fact
i bet tis same about KT and SP but average went mad after some tests xD

[Covert-141]

Super Pershings will use their speed to the advantage, in a large battlegroup they can flank and catch the KTs out of formation and get a few kills before all the KTs are in range to return fire. Even moreso they can use (read : abuse) this tactic to do hit and run tactics vs KTs thanks to the speed gap.

[Xichtschuss]

Originally posted by Covert-141:
Super Pershings will use their speed to the advantage, in a large battlegroup they can flank and catch the KTs out of formation and get a few kills before all the KTs are in range to return fire. Even moreso they can use (read : abuse) this tactic to do hit and run tactics vs KTs thanks to the speed gap.

Thanks, that's what I meant to convey in my earlier post :-)

[KillaJules]

Ah I see now how speed can be such a big factor. It seems that in the MP game I was referring to, the S-P spammer got raped because he didn't micro.

So how to balance this then? I think that the Pershing should get cost, firepower and range reduced to match Panther and S-P have its firepower reduced to match ordinary Tiger.

[Xichtschuss]

I think the S-P is an unnecessary unit altogether and should be removed. The U.S. is good enough as it is.

[AverageSoldier]

The S-P is not needed, to fast to strong, power of Ger speed and cost of Italy

*Extremely simple way of saying USA do NOT flame the AverageSoldier*

[wu-scherge]

how much more proof has there to be?
EUGEN go and nerf USA, what else is there to do?

[AverageSoldier]

If they nerf USA they will loose all the "USA is the greatest nation ever you noobs!" fanboys

I feel the heat now

[GK_]

Originally posted by AverageSoldier:
The S-P is not needed, to fast to strong, power of Ger speed and cost of Italy

*Extremely simple way of saying USA do NOT flame the AverageSoldier*

And USSR's time of production

[Illusive_S]

I think that what USA needs is +20$ price for ALL units. That would fix everything