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[LordSpyro598]

The JJ stamina drain after a parry is insane i have been at half stamina before and after one stamina punish from him im on the ground getting side light side heavy. No one seems to be talking about him at all. This is my no troll this is my actual opinion say what you want i dont care this game should have stopped getting more content before the wu lin came into this game I am serious.

[Lord.Warden.]

Agreed. His parry punish is insanely broken right now and should not drain that much stamina. They nerfed everyone's stamina drain damage to 30 from 60 except JJ.

[Knight_Raime]

It's talked about quite a bit with comp players.

General idea seems to be keep the ability for the smack to knock you over if it puts you OOS. And keep it's stamina pause (otherwise they'd just regen while being choked,) but reduce the amount of stamina damage it does.

[LordSpyro598]

i remember when it was 1like 1 10th of your stamina it needs to go back to that.

[King_of_Xibalba]

some time back I was demoralized by a cheater(95% sure about that) JJ , so that made me to not liking him with a visceral hate not even shinobi got when I was a rep zero over all, and shino was ultra fast for me...later I learned about both, so yeah shino is crap and JJ was really good pre ccu, learned to counter every move of him, practiced against his lvl 3 bot I think more than 6 days without playing any else...now Yes, the unique problem I have with him is ( I can´t believe I´am defending Jorg here) that now he is a better stamina bully than Jorgumander, yes his stamina draining is insane, and should be adjusted to previous values.Just to be consistent with the supossedly stamina bullies Cent and jorg.

[Knight_Raime]

some time back I was demoralized by a cheater(95% sure about that) JJ , so that made me to not liking him with a visceral hate not even shinobi got when I was a rep zero over all, and shino was ultra fast for me...later I learned about both, so yeah shino is crap and JJ was really good pre ccu, learned to counter every move of him, practiced against his lvl 3 bot I think more than 6 days without playing any else...now Yes, the unique problem I have with him is ( I can´t believe I´am defending Jorg here) that now he is a better stamina bully than Jorgumander, yes his stamina draining is insane, and should be adjusted to previous values.Just to be consistent with the supossedly stamina bullies Cent and jorg.

I'm wondering why Cent's parry counter only does 10 stamina. If we look at Jorm his does 30. Cent with haymaker does 17 damage and 10 stamina damage. Where Jorm is 30 stamina with 14 damage. I assumed everyone got their stamina damage normalized to 30 because that's what Jorms is at. So why not Cent?

I would say it's because it wall splats granting him his full jab. which that would be a total of 50 stamina damage plus 40 damage (30 for talons and 10 from knee and punch via haymaker.) But that returns their stamina when talons lands. I'm not sure if the utility of the splat makes up for the less damage. I could maybe see not giving him 30 like everyone else. But surely 20 wouldn't be a problem.

[King_of_Xibalba]

Yes raime, I also think it is because the wall splat grants the full jab, homever that´s the kind of inconsistent things that I find annoying with all these changes. 20 or even 25 I think are more consistent,but only they know why they put odd numbers.

[Knight_Raime]

Yes raime, I also think it is because the wall splat grants the full jab, homever that´s the kind of inconsistent things that I find annoying with all these changes. 20 or even 25 I think are more consistent,but only they know why they put odd numbers.

I guess maybe they wanted to force people to use lions roar if you wanted to do stamina damage. Which I guess is fine. But parry counter just doesn't seem like it feels worth choosing anymore atm unless you have a wall near by.

[FuncK_D]

Shinobi can put you OOS in basically one well executed encounter as well. Both JJ and Shinobi are outliers for some reason.

As long as we're talking about JJ and stamina, there is no good reason AT ALL that he needs to consume 30 stamina to throw a side heavy anymore considering it has no special parry properties post CCU.

JJ came out okay-ish post CCU because his lights can be pretty disorientating now, but what actually keeps me from playing him is how much stamina his side heavies still consume compared to how it feels to play any other given hero who's stamina consumes 12. It's a drag.

[King_of_Xibalba]

Shinobi can put you OOS in basically one well executed encounter as well. Both JJ and Shinobi are outliers for some reason.

As long as we're talking about JJ and stamina, there is no good reason AT ALL that he needs to consume 30 stamina to throw a side heavy anymore considering it has no special parry properties post CCU.

JJ came out okay-ish post CCU because his lights can be pretty disorientating now, but what actually keeps me from playing him is how much stamina his side heavies still consume compared to how it feels to play any other given hero who's stamina consumes 12. It's a drag.

well that´s true also, his heavies should be normalized in their costs, I don´t like such inconsistencies.