How is Highlander faster than Musha??? | Forums

[jt155805]

You devs shouldn't be near any game let alone a fighting game. I dont even have a degree and I could come up with a better update.

How do you guys buff all the B tier to A tier heroes but nerf all the D tier and F tier heroes?

You're really going to buff Shamen, Highlander, Shugo, etc... and then you're gonna nerf orochi, aramusha etc...???

So I'm an aramusha main and I gotta ask in what world does this character need a nerf and in what world does highlander need a buff???

Highlander can grab, kick, spam hyper armor, opening unblockable from stance and has strong tracking attacks that are already pretty fast and difficult to deal with.

Aramusha literally has no openers and is one of the weakest heroes and hardest heroes to use in the game... his light chains are the most predictable and easiest to parry in the game....not to meantion he has no opener kick or opener grab and he has nothing to open up his opponent except light attacks... which btw are slower than highlanders lights by a landslide..

Then on top of that you're going to make musha 200ms slower making his heavies 900ms and 700ms while making highlander faster?? How is Highlander faster than Musha?? This makes absolutely no sense at all?

You're telling me a viking that probably weighs over 200 pounds with a giant sword like that can swing faster and attack faster than a 140 pound samurai who has two little bity blades? Every hero is faster than musha besides like shugo.

It even says in mushas description... Fast attacks, feints, counter attacks... well thats obviously not true anymore how is 700ms and 900 ms heavies and slow lights like that quote "fast" seriously??? You guys may as well take him out of the game HE IS UNPLAYABLE.

Every character in the game that throws a normal heavy is faster than Musha. 900 ms just to throw a right or left heavy attack with those two little bity swords while highlander swings his sword like its made out of paper??

Get real ubi you devs have no common sense and this is one of the many ways you've completely ruined that game. What a joke. Put Musha back where he was before the CCU he wasn't op at all and was already difficult to use but now you've made him unplayable. What a pathetic update. Wake up Ubi.

[ArchThrone666]

I totally agree man,

The devs really lost their brains when nerfing aramusha

I used to play aramusha i got to rep 8 it was fun, then i stopped playing him

[Sanguinius-IX-]

You devs shouldn't be near any game let alone a fighting game. I dont even have a degree and I could come up with a better update.

How do you guys buff all the B tier to A tier heroes but nerf all the D tier and F tier heroes?

You're really going to buff Shamen, Highlander, Shugo, etc... and then you're gonna nerf orochi, aramusha etc...???

So I'm an aramusha main and I gotta ask in what world does this character need a nerf and in what world does highlander need a buff???

Highlander can grab, kick, spam hyper armor, opening unblockable from stance and has strong tracking attacks that are already pretty fast and difficult to deal with.

Aramusha literally has no openers and is one of the weakest heroes and hardest heroes to use in the game... his light chains are the most predictable and easiest to parry in the game....not to meantion he has no opener kick or opener grab and he has nothing to open up his opponent except light attacks... which btw are slower than highlanders lights by a landslide..

Then on top of that you're going to make musha 200ms slower making his heavies 900ms and 700ms while making highlander faster?? How is Highlander faster than Musha?? This makes absolutely no sense at all?

You're telling me a viking that probably weighs over 200 pounds with a giant sword like that can swing faster and attack faster than a 140 pound samurai who has two little bity blades? Every hero is faster than musha besides like shugo.

It even says in mushas description... Fast attacks, feints, counter attacks... well thats obviously not true anymore how is 700ms and 900 ms heavies and slow lights like that quote "fast" seriously??? You guys may as well take him out of the game HE IS UNPLAYABLE.

Every character in the game that throws a normal heavy is faster than Musha. 900 ms just to throw a right or left heavy attack with those two little bity swords while highlander swings his sword like its made out of paper??

Get real ubi you devs have no common sense and this is one of the many ways you've completely ruined that game. What a joke. Put Musha back where he was before the CCU he wasn't op at all and was already difficult to use but now you've made him unplayable. What a pathetic update. Wake up Ubi.

Why don't you inform yourself a little before you say these nonsense?

How is Highlander faster than Musha???
In fact, Highlander is no faster than Aramusha.
All Aramusha feints are 400ms, the maximum the Highlander reaches is 500ms with its light attack.

Do you want an opinion on Aramusha?
Here is one:
This patch 2.20.2 definitely helped Musha. In fact, I see nearly no nerfs to Musha this patch, only buffs. Even if most of it was global adjustments. You'll notice every other hero received moderate damage nerfs, while Aramusha saw nearly none, and several slight damage buffs.

All other heroes getting damage nerfs while Musha stays the same. Now his damage doesn't feel so egregiously lower comparatively.

Light stam costs being lowered to 9 is a large buff.

Fury Unleashed damage going from 15 to 24 is nice.

Kick stam cost from 40 to 30 is fine.

The only thing you can do on Aramusha is to speed up its heavy openings:
Heavy side opening: 27 dmg 900ms 12 stm (Take it to 24 dmg 800ms 12stm)

Orochi:
Orochi is fine the way it is.

[Lele051205]

Orochi:
Orochi is fine the way it is.

I aggree with most of what you said, but "orochi Is fine"? How? What does he have other than his deflect??

[jt155805]

Why don't you inform yourself a little before you say these nonsense?

How is Highlander faster than Musha???
In fact, Highlander is no faster than Aramusha.
All Aramusha feints are 400ms, the maximum the Highlander reaches is 500ms with its light attack.

Do you want an opinion on Aramusha?
Here is one:
This patch 2.20.2 definitely helped Musha. In fact, I see nearly no nerfs to Musha this patch, only buffs. Even if most of it was global adjustments. You'll notice every other hero received moderate damage nerfs, while Aramusha saw nearly none, and several slight damage buffs.

All other heroes getting damage nerfs while Musha stays the same. Now his damage doesn't feel so egregiously lower comparatively.

Light stam costs being lowered to 9 is a large buff.

Fury Unleashed damage going from 15 to 24 is nice.

Kick stam cost from 40 to 30 is fine.

The only thing you can do on Aramusha is to speed up its heavy openings:
Heavy side opening: 27 dmg 900ms 12 stm (Take it to 24 dmg 800ms 12stm)

Orochi:
Orochi is fine the way it is.

Musha has no openers and cannot throw heavy attacks and he is unplayable in the update.. Highlander has every tool in the game and every opener in the game... he never needed a buff... while musha has nothing... musha feints??? Are you blind? What do you think is gonna happen with a feint/ heavy that I throw with 700 to 900 ms against Highlander??

Obviously a crushing counter to say the least or hyper armor spam.. musha isn't in a good spot at all he is unplayable you obviously dont play him I can definitely see that. Musha never needed a nerf this nerf is unnecessary and it makes him unplayable. Im also on console btw you're probably on pc where the update is actually decent so.

You know why musha didn't get damage nerfs? Because his heavy attacks have such a low chance of hitting someone with brain cells... 700 and 900 ms heavies... yeah that totally won't get interrupted thx for that brilliant argument. Musha has no openers besides the most predictable and easy to parry light attacks.. like idk why you can't understand that.

Oh but hey at least they buff a character that already has every opener in the game... unblockable attacks, kicks, grabs, offensive stance, hyper armor aggressive attacks, crushing counter and to top it all off now hyper armor light chains..

Im sorry how does a buff to a character like that vs a character with literally none of the above make sense? Highlander never needed a buff thats the point and musha never needed a nerf... musha literally only has lights and blockades based on reaction to rely on to win.. may wanna "better inform" yourself on the characters first next time.

You obviously dont play the character.

[Sanguinius-IX-]

I aggree with most of what you said, but "orochi Is fine"? How? What does he have other than his deflect??

I remind you that all the heroes have suffered a nerf and Orochi as a whole is not a hero O.P. but not even to be thrown in the trash in my opinion as a hero is in the norm.

So I confirm what I said above, as a hero he is fine as he is.

EDIT:
If you still don't think Orochi is a good character to play, watch this video and you'll understand that he's really good in combat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtdLnjH6LoY

[Sanguinius-IX-]

Musha has no openers and cannot throw heavy attacks and he is unplayable in the update.. Highlander has every tool in the game and every opener in the game... he never needed a buff... while musha has nothing... musha feints??? Are you blind? What do you think is gonna happen with a feint/ heavy that I throw with 700 to 900 ms against Highlander??

Obviously a crushing counter to say the least or hyper armor spam.. musha isn't in a good spot at all he is unplayable you obviously dont play him I can definitely see that. Musha never needed a nerf this nerf is unnecessary and it makes him unplayable. Im also on console btw you're probably on pc where the update is actually decent so.

You know why musha didn't get damage nerfs? Because his heavy attacks have such a low chance of hitting someone with brain cells... 700 and 900 ms heavies... yeah that totally won't get interrupted thx for that brilliant argument. Musha has no openers besides the most predictable and easy to parry light attacks.. like idk why you can't understand that.

Oh but hey at least they buff a character that already has every opener in the game... unblockable attacks, kicks, grabs, offensive stance, hyper armor aggressive attacks, crushing counter and to top it all off now hyper armor light chains..

Im sorry how does a buff to a character like that vs a character with literally none of the above make sense? Highlander never needed a buff thats the point and musha never needed a nerf... musha literally only has lights and blockades based on reaction to rely on to win.. may wanna "better inform" yourself on the characters first next time.

You obviously dont play the character.

Highlander did not get any buff, he suffered a nerf like all the other heroes.
As for the Aramusha I remain with my opinion what I wrote above is valid.
It is not my fault if you play on consoles.

[SV-MINION]

He is right musha got the d I'm a rep 70 and top 17th player world wide (was!!) His Heavies are so slow you can no longer Perry and get a top-heavy they even nerfed his stamina which now you can't even take the minions on point without running out of stamina the character is not even playable anymore.......and If you cant see that you dont play him and see the problem ubisoft is to cheap to balance the different console compatibility that why we cant block light becouse the ps4 cant pick up the move fast enough

[M.i.s.t.a.k.e]

i'm rep 70 aramusha before the CCU i was asking for an opener and to buff his all stance now i can't even play him anymore i just want him to be the broken stupid old character that he was before the patch 900ms heavies oh please just why would they do that why???
i play in PC and aramusha is bad in all platforms just get him fixed devs

[Gaser.]

i'm rep 70 aramusha before the CCU i was asking for an opener and to buff his all stance now i can't even play him anymore i just want him to be the broken stupid old character that he was before the patch 900ms heavies oh please just why would they do that why???
i play in PC and aramusha is bad in all platforms just get him fixed devs

Well I think mainly to remove the ability to do a heavy at a heavy parry. (Atleast top heavys)


Actually Aramusha also kinda got a buff to his full block, if the enemy hit you with a light then you can use your full block to try to catch the next attack in the combo.

But yeah he should get some looking at.