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    Not sure how you did it but you have ACTUALLY made Orochi even worse...

    So orochi got an unblockable... he needed one of those 3 - 4 years ago. Now all the characters have evolved so much this it's basically pointless and all you have done it taken away his lights WHICH basically where he only attempt at an opener ?!

    He needed an opener guys... seriously.

    His kit is TERRIBLE Unblockable into Gb : / thats not predictable.

    Not sure why you insist on ****ting on the assassin glass so hard but you are persistent I will give you that.
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    The more I play the WORSE it is... you can't throw lights, you can't throw heavies ?! The amount of fluff you have to push out with hard feints CONSTANTLY to get any real damage off is stupid... it's like orochi is build around guard breaking cause that is the only way you can do anything.

    His zone uses all his stamina and doesn't flow off any moves, with his lights slowed down nothing seems to flow anymore, he literally doesn't do any damage UNLESS you out of stam knock and double heavy someone : /

    Unless your a deflect king then you really have NO chance.
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    Originally Posted by Faithly88 Go to original post
    The more I play the WORSE it is... you can't throw lights, you can't throw heavies ?! The amount of fluff you have to push out with hard feints CONSTANTLY to get any real damage off is stupid... it's like orochi is build around guard breaking cause that is the only way you can do anything.

    His zone uses all his stamina and doesn't flow off any moves, with his lights slowed down nothing seems to flow anymore, he literally doesn't do any damage UNLESS you out of stam knock and double heavy someone : /

    Unless your a deflect king then you really have NO chance.
    Yeah well Orochi needs a actual rework.
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    I don't know how to feel about him atm. I like how some of his kit feels right now. Dislike how other things feel.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    I don't know how to feel about him atm. I like how some of his kit feels right now. Dislike how other things feel.
    his lights are now too slow, and his heavies have always been too slow. His heavy feint to gb has always been clunky too.
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    Originally Posted by MrBdur Go to original post
    his lights are now too slow, and his heavies have always been too slow. His heavy feint to gb has always been clunky too.
    His heavies are actually pretty great. His unblockable is actually pretty decent too if you know how to use it.
    And because he can cancel his recoveries with finishers via dodging he's got a bit more breathing room with how he chooses to use his finishers.

    My one complaint at the moment is how weak his mid chain feels. You can skip over it mostly because of how his chain structure works. Which makes him feel like a worse Kensei Since Kensei has armor, soft feints, and a heavy dodge attack.

    There are definitely some changes i'd make to his kit. But overall I dunno. He feels kind of clean rn.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    His heavies are actually pretty great. His unblockable is actually pretty decent too if you know how to use it.
    And because he can cancel his recoveries with finishers via dodging he's got a bit more breathing room with how he chooses to use his finishers.

    My one complaint at the moment is how weak his mid chain feels. You can skip over it mostly because of how his chain structure works. Which makes him feel like a worse Kensei Since Kensei has armor, soft feints, and a heavy dodge attack.

    There are definitely some changes i'd make to his kit. But overall I dunno. He feels kind of clean rn.
    Yeah I like the UB, and its nice being able to cancel finisher recoveries with dodges, but still, I wish his heavies were just a tad faster, and the feint to gb was smoother.

    Also, his lights got nerfed too hard. They need a speed buff now back to the in between of now and pre nerf.
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    Originally Posted by MrBdur Go to original post
    Yeah I like the UB, and its nice being able to cancel finisher recoveries with dodges, but still, I wish his heavies were just a tad faster, and the feint to gb was smoother.

    Also, his lights got nerfed too hard. They need a speed buff now back to the in between of now and pre nerf.
    Eh. He has a 700ms opening heavy. Those are quite powerful defensive tools. My only qualm is with the recent damage changes his side and top opening heavies do the same damage. But side is slower. I don't understand it.

    My main problem with his mid chain light is the same. They either should've left it at 400ms but changed the branch in time of it or made them 500ms but left the branch in time the same. Because it's slower to link into his mid chain light from either a light or a heavy opener than linking into a heavy you basically never do a mid chain light unless the person is some how OOS and you're trying to get a bit of extra chip damage in.

    Even if that was solved though he still wouldn't be where i'd like him.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    Eh. He has a 700ms opening heavy. Those are quite powerful defensive tools. My only qualm is with the recent damage changes his side and top opening heavies do the same damage. But side is slower. I don't understand it.

    My main problem with his mid chain light is the same. They either should've left it at 400ms but changed the branch in time of it or made them 500ms but left the branch in time the same. Because it's slower to link into his mid chain light from either a light or a heavy opener than linking into a heavy you basically never do a mid chain light unless the person is some how OOS and you're trying to get a bit of extra chip damage in.

    Even if that was solved though he still wouldn't be where i'd like him.
    Is it actually 700ms? Why does it feel so slow and clunky? I ferl orochi heavies are easier to react to than actual slower heavies then lol
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    Originally Posted by MrBdur Go to original post
    Is it actually 700ms? Why does it feel so slow and clunky? I ferl orochi heavies are easier to react to than actual slower heavies then lol
    The information hub says so and it was updated recently so unless it's a change that slipped under our noses then yeah it's 700ms still.
    Well his top heavy animation is pretty pronounced.
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