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[Sanguinius-IX-]

How about you give an evaluation on his busted feats?

I'd say you're right.
Everything you wrote about Tiandi is right

[EliteReaper2118]

https://images.app.goo.gl/iZTqSmZF9Yyw99eD7


Guys can we have a new hero ? That would look like the image above its 1 of the immortals army from the movie 300 an elite army during the babylonia empire... can anyone please suggest this to the devs?

[Goat_of_Vermund]

https://images.app.goo.gl/iZTqSmZF9Yyw99eD7


Guys can we have a new hero ? That would look like the image above its 1 of the immortals army from the movie 300 an elite army during the babylonia empire... can anyone please suggest this to the devs?

Problems:

1. This is copyrighted.
2. Immortals totally did not look like that. This is an edgy samurai. Immortals had a short spear and a shield.
3. This is basically what the child of Aramusha and Hitokiri looks like. Not very original.
4. Babylon as an Empire crumbled centuries before, this is Persian Empire.

Buy Hitokiri, level him up, gear him as edgy as you can, and basically you have the hero. Even the voice has the same monstrous vibe.

[EliteReaper2118]

You fail to see how people using kensei can kill you by throwing a light and then spam dodge heavy

Or seeing orochi's players using tons of lights

Or tiandi who's move take an eternity to end ?
And his lights are like lightning speed compared to warden?

Or shaolin who can easily beat warden since he does more damage and if the damage is not the issue than the move set is

Or the jiang ju who gets his stamina faster than anyone ? Or even zhan hu he has every 2nd light or heavy is unblockable


On knights what do we have ?

Warden ? He's nerfed to death
Lawbringer ? They removed his armor on shove so now light spammers like orochi or kensei or others can hit R1 and hit you until they kill you
Peacekeeper? Its been nerfed like warden even worst top heavy does 20 dmg bleed damage does 2 or 4 at best 6, lights they do 8 to 12

Conqueror ? He runs out of stamina faster than anyone ...

There's alot the knights have issues with...
Centurion and gladiator is OK they are fine mix ups ok and alright the rest is nerfed to death ...

So how come kensei be able to do more damage than warden ? Warden has armor after all kensei doesn't and if he does it's minimal same for orochi

They could at least give back the armor on shove for lawbringer and adding some too to warden since every vanguard except for warden has hyper armor

Raider has hyper armor kensei has hyper armor
Warden does not...

[EliteReaper2118]

He has a mask like this ?

Also I know its copyrighted but to give the devs an idea on how to look

And I know the real immortals had spears and long beards in skirts so I think this image might be better than the later which you implied ...

Also does anyone have a mask that looks as close to this as possible?

[Goat_of_Vermund]

He has a mask like this ?

Also I know its copyrighted but to give the devs an idea on how to look

And I know the real immortals had spears and long beards in skirts so I think this image might be better than the later which you implied ...

Also does anyone have a mask that looks as close to this as possible?

I think he does. Or at least similar.

[Lord.Warden.]

You fail to see how people using kensei can kill you by throwing a light and then spam dodge heavy

Or seeing orochi's players using tons of lights

Or tiandi who's move take an eternity to end ?
And his lights are like lightning speed compared to warden?

Or shaolin who can easily beat warden since he does more damage and if the damage is not the issue than the move set is

Or the jiang ju who gets his stamina faster than anyone ? Or even zhan hu he has every 2nd light or heavy is unblockable


On knights what do we have ?

Warden ? He's nerfed to death
Lawbringer ? They removed his armor on shove so now light spammers like orochi or kensei or others can hit R1 and hit you until they kill you
Peacekeeper? Its been nerfed like warden even worst top heavy does 20 dmg bleed damage does 2 or 4 at best 6, lights they do 8 to 12

Conqueror ? He runs out of stamina faster than anyone ...

There's alot the knights have issues with...
Centurion and gladiator is OK they are fine mix ups ok and alright the rest is nerfed to death ...

So how come kensei be able to do more damage than warden ? Warden has armor after all kensei doesn't and if he does it's minimal same for orochi

They could at least give back the armor on shove for lawbringer and adding some too to warden since every vanguard except for warden has hyper armor

Raider has hyper armor kensei has hyper armor
Warden does not...

Warden is the only Vanguard without soft feints, hyper armor on attacks (I don't count bashes as they don't do damage on their own), or light finishers. And now not only is his damage nerfed, but his feats and perks too.

[Gaser.]

I think we can finish this entire discussion.


Because Wardens dmg numbers are fine since the last patch.

Warden
Rushing Slash now deals 12 damage (from 18)
Opener Top Heavy now deals 27 damage (from 32)
Opener Left Heavy now deals 24 damage (from 29)
Opener Right Heavy now deals 24 damage (from 29)
Finisher Top Heavy now deals 34 damage (from 41)
Finisher Left Heavy now deals 30 damage (from 35)
Finisher Right Heavy now deals 30 damage (from 35)
Valiant Breakthrough now deals 16 damage (from 18)
Crushing Counterstrike now deals 20 damage (from 24)
Combo Left Light now deals 5 damage (from 6)
Combo Right Light now deals 5 damage (from 6)

[Gaser.]

Warden is the only Vanguard without soft feints, hyper armor on attacks (I don't count bashes as they don't do damage on their own), or light finishers. And now not only is his damage nerfed, but his feats and perks too.

Sucks to be you then because the devs do consider bashes a attack typ.

Not to mention bashes that get hyper armour belong to some of the best offensive tools in the game.

I also have no clue what you want with a light finisher.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I also have no clue what you want with a light finisher.

I think he wants to have frame disadvantage. By the way, Warmonger has no light finisher either, all chains end with a heavy (excluding the special light after the bash, but bashes are not attacks, so who cares, right?).

Warden is the only Vanguard who can initiate a move from back dodging, and with superior block on a light attack. The only Vanguard with guaranteed followup attacks. The only Vanguard having immunity to bleed.

Raider is the only Vanguard with no bash. The only Vanguard not getting a heavy after a gb.

Tiandi is the only Vanguard without an unblockable (bashes don't count, remember?).

Kensei is the only Vanguard not having a neutral bash or unblockable.


Statements like this mean nothing.