Highlander and Shugoki | Forums

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I think these heroes turned quite problematic, especially the former.

Hl has a 27 damage cc, and a 400ms chain light which is 15 damage (pk's chain light is 9 damage). He also seem to hit out of range, for some attacks, his sword is 10 feet (3 meters) long.

Shugoki is not broken, but it is extremely irritating that he can just interrupt everything with a very fast hyperarmored light (I know it is parryable and he is not so good beyond that).

[Knight_Raime]

I disagree about HL outside his L>L not following the rules for no descernable reason. The damage values can and should be tweaked yeah. But that's relatively minor. HL still needs a little help.


Goki on the other hand I find problematic. Even if they adjusted his health swing with his hug and lowered the stamina damage on his headbutt he's still based around trading. Which isn't fun to deal with. Not to mention he still has other frankly obnoxious oddities about him. His main mix up is still negated on back walking unless it's his chain heavy after a normal heavy (since both his light and zone don't cause enough hitstun to prevent you from spacing.) His main mix up is also pretty unusable against anyone who has a bash. But heros without one find the match up to be pretty unfair. And his hug still has a 2 second whiff recovery.


In my opinion Goki and shinobi are the only two characters in this game with designs that can't be saved and both need drastic changes.

[AmsKraken]

The problem is that some characters move their extremely long and heavy weapons as if it were a stick, but the damage is high. HL, Shugo, Kensei, Warden, Warmonger, etc. Long swords that are so fast!!!

[KevalOfHades]

The problem is the devs cant seam to find a way to make viable offense without simply speeding everything up,

Although it kind of makes sense with shugo to swing his huge club fast considering his charecter and immense brute strength

[Lord.Warden.]

Please vote https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...0ms-CCU-change at the top of the topic.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Please vote https://forums.ubisoft.com/showthrea...0ms-CCU-change at the top of the topic.

Please don't spam this topic. Your poll is not really important anyway, considering how the results may represent 0,3% of the community at most, and those changes will never be reverted anyway.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I find especially the second light of HL unfair, I don't get why such a fast attack deals 15 damage, especially since he restarts the chain, and his cc being 27 is also too high for a 500ms heavy (bp's was nerfed from 20 even before the CCU if I am correct, this is the same thing).

Shugoki is simply just irritating, you are basically forced to turtle him.