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  1. #131
    Originally Posted by a19awesome19 Go to original post
    Impressive! You only have 2 hands but 4 guns!

    I reckon 2 years won't be long enough for me. I'll be busy with either skyscraper or PS5. Let's keep this thread going for 3 years!
    i share 25+ EB on my friends and clan members - PLAYERS WHO TRY DOING RAID , not lazy ones like you who find excuses ,whine and not iven try - SHAME

    this topic will be closed anyway, like all cry topics about EB
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  2. #132
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    Let's keep the tone of this thread constructive and on topic please.
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  3. #133
    Originally Posted by SevenNVD Go to original post
    Let's keep the tone of this thread constructive and on topic please.
    Close this thread anyway

    "Give me EB in the open world" or "#freetheeagle" worshipers dont listen anybody(1,5 year story) , iven when as most present counter arguments than theirs

    Therefore, most "cry EBtopics" were always closed
    The funny thing is that if they devoted the same amount of time/effort to join a group or a clan, they would have had EB a long time ago, but they don't learn from mistakes as you can see, which is funny
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  4. #134
    There was a thread that went on for pages about an idea of the EB being available for solo players via microtransactions, a few weeks ago. Now DZ....what's the idea next week? If they aren't going to make exceptions for ALL exclusive loot, they won't devote plans for one specific item of said theme. Sending out new ideas every week for the EB is just annoying now. It's not going to happen, due to how unfair it would be for other players whom want other items that are locked behind specific content. The devs won't put that kind of effort in when they are already having trouble with the gameplay mechanics as is.
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  5. #135
    Originally Posted by VampiricVulpix Go to original post
    There was a thread that went on for pages about an idea of the EB being available for solo players via microtransactions, a few weeks ago. Now DZ....what's the idea next week? If they aren't going to make exceptions for ALL exclusive loot, they won't devote plans for one specific item of said theme. Sending out new ideas every week for the EB is just annoying now. It's not going to happen, due to how unfair it would be for other players whom want other items that are locked behind specific content. The devs won't put that kind of effort in when they are already having trouble with the gameplay mechanics as is.
    This sect does not stop, which is pathetic already
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  6. #136
    Originally Posted by SevenNVD Go to original post
    Let's keep the tone of this thread constructive and on topic please.
    Actually I do hope the mod closes this thread. The lack of grammar and typing skills in this one is insane to read. Even the folks I agree with look like idiots trying to respond in here.

    Either way, yeah, this silly argument over something meaningless has definitely run its course. EB is raid exclusive and will stay that way. The devs have already stated they will not budge on raid exclusive items and that is a good decision. End of story.
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  7. #137
    The thing that I find so tragic about this thread is that there is a sentiment that the raid is unapproachable just like the DZ.

    When, people started using the term "locked" it should have been a sign to me that there was an issue. The raid is niche.

    I am going to be a bit mean here, but I think it should be unlocked for a very simple reason. There are a lot of players who do the raids and join clans just to get the weapon and are utterly useless before and after acquisition of the item. Often they have terrible builds, require people to carry them through the raid, and then once they have their coveted weapon just leave and are never seen again until a new item appears. It is gimmicky and to be honest a tragedy.

    The devs never supported this content in-game with what it needed. Yeah, you can all say that Destiny has raid exclusive gear, but Destiny supports their raids to a far higher degree and even worse Destiny Raids are a lot more approachable than Dark Hours or Iron Horse.

    Yeah, it makes me feel good having a rare weapon or two that no one has, but I have seen these items destroy clans and relationships.

    If we keep having to try to put these things in a raid to lure people in then the raids are not rewarding enough for the energy spent.

    When I was recently asked by an outsider to my clan why we raided the way that we did after we got the raid exclusive gear, I had one answer - camaraderie. My clan does the raids to be around people we know and enjoy the experience. We sometimes had a bunch of us go into the dz and flood the same region for the same reason - to have 8+ of us doing the same thing and being a part of the same experience. Raiding can give you that, but sadly the solo nature of much of the game and lack of support on certain areas makes it hard to experience.

    At this point, I am so saddened that I will likely never see a 3rd raid in this game that my response is to just open it up. Open it all up. Stop trying to stick the gear as some bait to try to entice people to experience the raid. It has been a year and a half. It it was ever going to work to bring people into the raid on a consistent basis, it would have done so by now.

    It doesn't work. It sadly doesn't work. It had a year and a half to work, and it just hasn't.

    I know the team is working hard on this game and I appreciate them, but at this point I think we should just accept that the raids were a failure for most of the community except my small group of friends and those like them.
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  8. #138
    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    Why? How does it hurt you if someone else gets the exotic in a different way? How does it hurt them? How does it hurt the raiding experience? How does it hurt the game?
    It's a video game. It doesn't hurt me. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to think what I do. I've stated my view plenty here.

    People who do not have it can go get it as it is now. There is an avenue to it.

    It hurts the Dark Hours raid experience by removing the cookie. No cookie, no purpose to DH.

    This is the problem with keeping things locked past when they're relevant.
    If it were not relevant any more, people would not be wanting the EB.

    But by keeping things locked to specific spots long past when that serves any purpose, the game as a whole suffers.
    You and I have fundamentally different views on the topic of keeping things locked behind events and that's ok. I also disagree about it making the whole game suffer, that's just my viewpoint. You have yours and that's ok too.

    Neither you or I have an effect on this in reality.
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  9. #139
    Originally Posted by TxDieselKid Go to original post
    It's a video game. It doesn't hurt me. It's my opinion and I'm entitled to think what I do. I've stated my view plenty here.

    People who do not have it can go get it as it is now. There is an avenue to it.

    It hurts the Dark Hours raid experience by removing the cookie. No cookie, no purpose to DH.

    If the content requires a cookie to even get people interested in it after a year and a half. Maybe the content itself was a mistake in some way.

    Its been a year and a half along with a complete gear rework. If there was going to be some magical moment that people were going to discover the wonderful experience of doing this as an 8 person group, then it would have happened by now.

    Originally Posted by TxDieselKid Go to original post
    If it were not relevant any more, people would not be wanting the EB.
    People always want what they can't have. It is human nature. That is the reason the quote "the grass is always greener on the other side" is a thing.

    Originally Posted by TxDieselKid Go to original post
    You and I have fundamentally different views on the topic of keeping things locked behind events and that's ok. I also disagree about it making the whole game suffer, that's just my viewpoint. You have yours and that's ok too.
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    I appreciate people being civil with each other on this topic. Getting toxic to just close the thread has been an often repeated cycle on the forums.

    Originally Posted by TxDieselKid Go to original post
    Neither you or I have an effect on this in reality.
    People make their arguments and often the logic of them at some point rises. It does have an effect on reality. Just not in the short to immediate term.


    I think the devs should support the content a bit more in game. A discord is not really enough in my mind. I know they now probably have limited resources, but still the gap in how people are prepared vs unprepared for this is simply obvious. Threads like this and others reinforce this notion.

    This is supposed to be along with legendary missions the pinnacle of PvE in the game. Most people rather seeing a mountain to climb see a steep and imposing wall. That isn't how this should be and it makes the content niche and easy to abandon.

    In-game tutorials, and even a system suited to actually prepare a person for the raid with build help in game would be ideal. The build system even now offers a lot of options, but sadly most of them are missed.

    Relying on content creators to fill this gap has been a repeated mistake. Marcostyle has abandoned the game and Widdz just about burned his bridges as well. There is no genius content creator to save the day. The rest are well, a whole lot of empty 10 minute clickbait videos. "Hey there, its your boy _____" is the cliche right now.
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  10. #140
    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    i share 25+ EB on my friends and clan members - PLAYERS WHO TRY DOING RAID , not lazy ones like you who find excuses ,whine and not iven try - SHAME

    this topic will be closed anyway, like all cry topics about EB
    Oh I'm the laziest of the lazy. I didn't even try when I COMPLETED dark hours. I used a robot that did all the work for me. I just sat back and watched.

    Originally Posted by TxDieselKid Go to original post
    It hurts the Dark Hours raid experience by removing the cookie. No cookie, no purpose to DH.
    It doesn't remove the cookie. It just opens another avenue to obtain the cookie. If OP idea went through, I still wouldn't go into DZ. I would still get EB from the raid. But gasps how is that possible. The cookie has been removed!
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