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  1. #91
    Originally Posted by Sircowdog1 Go to original post
    Yes, but WHY are you against it?
    Simple - Everbody tells you - raids is most dificult content in game now - "end game"
    You need proper builds like "tank/dps/medic" and because of this , you have a goal for farm specific items for this - and thanks to this you have a diversify in the game, which is not boring
    You meet other players , and you want to achieve the same goal - complete raid
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  2. #92
    Originally Posted by hiddenxcharax Go to original post
    if players can't be bothered learning the raid or looking for a group then you don't deserve any raid exclusive weapons simple as that,

    normally these players will come out massive excuses like thread starter here to justify, this is caveats for the lazy
    3/4 created topics about EB in 1,5 year - most are excuses ,do everything just not to play the raid - sad but true
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    Originally Posted by hiddenxcharax Go to original post
    if players can't be bothered learning the raid or looking for a group then you don't deserve any raid exclusive weapons simple as that,

    normally these players will come out massive excuses like thread starter here to justify, this is caveats for the lazy
    So basically "Us vs Them".

    This is why you personally dislike, or have prejudice against, a group of players that you have demonized based on a stereotype or assumption. Everything about the way that you frame your reasoning is poor. "Players who can't be bothered" sounds dismissive, as though players don't want to seek out challenges, which is false. "You don't deserve" sounds like you think raiding is something special and not part of the greater whole of the game, and seeks to split players who don't raid into a lesser class.

    But that says nothing about how it benefits or harms the game itself. It makes it sound like you want special treatment for raiding instead of seeking ways to make the game and the playerbase as a whole better off. Which is why I believe that such reasoning is poor, and should not be a deciding factor when determining these kinds of issues. We should be looking for ways to make THE ENTIRE GAME better, and not just raiding.

    So...tell me how you think that keeping these items locked to the raid improves the entire game. What benefit is there?
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    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    Simple - Everbody tells you - raids is most dificult content in game now - "end game"
    You need proper builds like "tank/dps/medic" and because of this , you have a goal for farm specific items for this - and thanks to this you have a diversify in the game, which is not boring
    You meet other players , and you want to achieve the same goal - complete raid
    Dark Hours is absolutely NOT the most difficult content in the game. I made this point earlier, and even expanded upon it by saying that a period of time where such content is NEW merits some amount of exclusivity. But later on when that exclusivity is no longer serving its purpose, then those restrictions need to be altered to better suit the current day environment.

    This can be seen with things like the WONY exotics and gearsets. Initially it was good to have them restricted to only the specific missions in WONY, because it promoted the expansion and encouraged people to go there. But once enough time had passed, it made more sense to benefit the entire playerbase by releasing those items to the general pool in order to give level 30 players something new to enjoy as well. Keeping them restricted would not have any further benefit.

    In the case of the Dark Hours raid, to be blunt: It's old and outdated. It is no longer the newest or most difficult content. When Dark Hours was new, it made sense to have things locked there. But it simply no longer makes enough sense to leave it that way indefinitely. Keeping the EB locked to it is actually creating more strife within the community, when releasing it to non-raiders though some other, newer form of content with more difficulty or challenge would spark a new wave of activity across the board.

    This is the problem with keeping things locked past when they're relevant. You might continue to get a tiny fraction of players who feel compelled to participate in the raids, but that minuscule benefit would be vastly outweighed by the amount of non-raiders participating in a new challenge rather than an old one they already didn't have any interest in.
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  5. #95
    Sircowdog1 "Dark Hours is absolutely NOT the most difficult content in the game." my good dude , stop writing b....

    3/4 players write to you here , that you are wrong, and you are trying to convince others by force
    The fact that other players do speed run does not mean that everyone is doing it, so far many people have problems complete DH
    Somehow I haven't seen anyone on the forum here or on reddit complaining that they have a problem with completing legendary missions

    Soo stop writing fairy tales

    As everyone has written here, you are always trying to do everything easier for you "EB"

    You lose 1.5 years of nonsense, it's a pity to look
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  6. #96
    Dark Hours is absolutely NOT the most difficult content in the game
    if its not difficult then go do it and get your EB instead of cry on forums
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    Originally Posted by Sgt.Danielle Go to original post
    if its not difficult then go do it and get your EB instead of cry on forums
    Sigh....way to completely miss the point.



    I swear to god, sometimes I don't even know why I try to argue with logic and sense. You guys are just going to repeat the same tired crap.
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  8. #98
    Originally Posted by Sgt.Danielle Go to original post
    if its not difficult then go do it and get your EB instead of cry on forums
    He cry with "0" result in 1,5 years

    Someone recently wrote here, it's much easier to drag someone through a legendary mission than into a raid

    I check our forum and reddit on a regular basis and I have not seen anyone there having a problem with completing legendary missions - and with the Raids , there are many topics because they have problems
    But for Sircowdog1 the raid is easy - but it's nothing that he cries for it for 1.5 years --> IMAO ROFL
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    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    my good dude , stop writing b....
    Right, because when someone doesn't parrot your own opinion back to you, you'd prefer that they shut up and not say anything at all? That's the sign of a weak argument when you'd rather not hear anything than have it challenged.


    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    3/4 players write to you here , that you are wrong, and you are trying to convince others by force
    No, I am using logic and well-written arguments the make a strong case for my opinion. Stonewalling and insulting players by telling them that they're "crying", while simultaneously coercing them into content they don't enjoy by using outdated and pointless exclusivity is using force.



    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    Somehow I haven't seen anyone on the forum here or on reddit complaining that they have a problem with completing legendary missions
    Then you're not looking. Which isn't surprising considering your stance on trying to shut people up or not even read what they're saying.



    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    As everyone has written here, you are always trying to do everything easier for you "EB"
    Case in point. Despite repeated well-written posts making the case to the literal opposite of "easier", you're still spouting this nonsense about me wanting things to be easy. For christ sake, at this point you're actually fitting the description of trolling.



    Originally Posted by INV_DALERIUM Go to original post
    You lose 1.5 years of nonsense, it's a pity to look
    More insults. I'm not surprised.
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  10. #100
    "But I guess you guys only care about being special snowflakes. This kind of sh*t right here is why the community is so f*cking terrible. "

    No its calling lazy & excusses - this is the real deal

    "No, I am using logic and well-written arguments the make a strong case for my opinion. Stonewalling and insulting players by telling them that they're "crying", while simultaneously coercing them into content they don't enjoy by using outdated and pointless exclusivity is using force. ""


    So others players who disagree with you - not use logic?? when they actual play RAID ??

    stop making fun of yourself and come back here in another 2 years
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