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[FoxyVi]

Heya...

I don't like writing post like this but here we are... I will try to be short but..we will see.
Okay then! Like you might know I will be talking about Lawbringer-Aka Law(Daddy) Or big tin can.
Well...I'm not a low lvl player i have nearly 60 rep on him, yet I'm playing mostly 1v1 or 2v2. And here is the most problems with Lawbringer after CCU.

Warning!! I will be talking from PC perspective!

So lets start from something simple! His bash:

Yeah, after ccu n some s'hit his bash is... Kinda useless. Very situational indeed but still... Like you might know his bash is very very very slow i could easily say the slowest bash in game, and now? It's without hyper armor (Fun fact The main tactic from tutorial was based on hyper armor doge bash) You can easily dodge it and now you can do a light to counter it. I mean you can still make good use of it sure but most ppl is doing lights or their heroes are kinda broken. Like tiandi's double tap (what have kinda insane speed after ccu) and other heroes. Well...i mean his bash have only guaranteed free light like most heroes bashes but theirs bashes are 5x quicker or 50/50.

Next thing long arm:

Kinda useless in 1v1 very slow without HA and enemy gets a free gb. Of course, you can use it in 1v1 but that will be lucky guess or corner cuck(When your enemy is in the corner and can't dodge) then you will get a free side heavy.

Neeeeeeext Light combo:

Surprised? Yeah, its kinda insane op light combo. Oh, sorry I was joking >.> he has 0 light combos. Tbh I'm not a fan of light combos cuz after ccu they are kinda insane and with frame advantages ,but LB should get a simple light-light combo cuz he is staying much behind in heroes class after ccu.

Heavies:

They are kinda nice and have nice dmg but...they are very slow... and there is a little thing! When heavy is slow you have more time to gb it. And yeah..next problem is that ..Lawbringer is very easy to parry and gb. (Sadly you can't play like other heroes I mean..offensive kinda must turtling) They don't have Hyper Armor either! So you can't even trade properly...(Fun fact... He have a heavy fricking plate armor and still no HA but some smaller dudes with only clothes or even without any clothes have hyper armor.)

Top light:

I know i know many ppl was complaining about his 400ms top light but that was his only thing that was keeping some "fair" distance n interrupting some combos. Before ccu players was dealing with it by keeping their guard up and even parry it! And I kinda respected that. After ccu...its kinda pointless doing it and lb have huge disadvantage because he can't do light combo after it like most heroes. And that have very short range.

New light parry:

Let's say it's just a joke...21 dmg from light parry...I mean..what they were drinking or sniffing right there? I kinda wanna this stuff too!

His finishers should be undogeable..change my mind.

Slow movement:

Yeah..and that's a fact..even his side dodge is slow...and have ultra slow recovery.

Next thing:

After missing a light you can punish him using gb cuz he have a huge recovery. Other heroes can do second light.

Main thoughts:

After CCU Lawbringer From S or A+ tier become a B Tier or even C. Of course after ccu i won some games but that was only theirs mistakes and pure luck, ya can still win tho.
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And here is(in my opinion) the last thing that destroyed Lawbringer.

And it's the Pure ccu I mean not reaction just "guessing" game. Lawbringer was based and made for reaction, blocks n parrying but after ccu when lights become much faster and mainly guaranteed he can't even block or parry it. I'm playing long long long time and have nice reactions and after buying 144hz monitor I could easily react to all light spam or even berserker or aramusha faints but now....ehh...

Anyway there is my opinion about Lawbringer and his main problems. I hope ubi will fix him or delete this 100ms indicator but please say what thoughts you have about him.

[Rabbits_On]

Defiently still S or a tier

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

I would give him hyper armour on his first two heavies. That's what we were asking for before his rework. It makes sense because he was designed to be a defensive character with high HP so trading should be one of his options. Another reason is that he is the most heavily armoured hero in the game yet Berserker and Raider have more hyper armour than he did before his nerf.

[Kakarlos19]

Law is strong if you want to pain play with nobu, pk, et...

[Porch-]

Phhhh. About time Lawbringer took a seat. And he's still powerful. Wanna experience **** characters, play Shinobi.

[Qoissant]

I would give him hyper armour on his first two heavies. That's what we were asking for before his rework. It makes sense because he was designed to be a defensive character with high HP so trading should be one of his options. Another reason is that he is the most heavily armoured hero in the game yet Berserker and Raider have more hyper armour than he did before his nerf.

Idk why he needs the on the first two and not his last one which is his mixup move. Neutral heavies should never get HA for the most part. But he needs it bad on his unblockable

[GayForShugoki]

Lawbringer is still S tier. Stop trying to cover all his weaknesses. One mistake against Lawbringer and you lose 60% of your health. His light parry does 21 damage but it leads into another combo. Get better at the hero.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Your lawbringer might be an idiot if he does 21 damage on a light parry. Mine does 30+.

I love that Lawbringers stripped of their training wheels how flood the forum. Just because he is not the unquestionable number 1 anymore in any game mode, he doesn't need a rework.

[Okt0g00N]

Your lawbringer might be an idiot if he does 21 damage on a light parry. Mine does 30+.

I love that Lawbringers stripped of their training wheels how flood the forum. Just because he is not the unquestionable number 1 anymore in any game mode, he doesn't need a rework.

can't you delay a top heavy to be neutral and deal 32 damage ?
that's what i have been doing and no one seems to counter it, maybe they were expecting an unblockable ? who knows

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

Idk why he needs the on the first two and not his last one which is his mixup move. Neutral heavies should never get HA for the most part. But he needs it bad on his unblockable

Hyper armour on neutral heavies is for trading and would make it easier for these slow attacks to land. I think giving him an unblockable heavy finisher with hyper armour would be too much and isn't necessary when it is already effective for forcing reactions and mixups in general.