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It is so hard to understand. She is not op like it was Raider reworked when he was a God.I mean but She is stronger than the rest because she has all the tools and not weakness. Trust me, you haven't seen all the potential of this hero. Come on, It s only one week out and they are destroying all the game. Just look the post in this forum. Everyone is going out from this game by her and the CCU. Now the balance state is crazy. You only need to have HA and throw hits because it is difficult block and parry with this CCU.
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I dont like ccu either, only the better inputs for zone, also I understand she has unblockables, undodgeables at all the tools others don´t, she is stronger than pk or shinobis or nobus, there is no doubt, but also when she is not using her feats I destroyed most of them, at least with warlord and in mirror matches.Originally Posted by Kakarlos19 Go to original post
I dont use her feats in breach or dom, they are busted to the core.
Also I understand what you mean, but what I did not understand was your first response, I thought it was for Raime, but I really don´t know. i did not say at first anything to you but to the original poster.
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Look this video. Warmonger is banned in competitive tournaments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbkNf606JlY
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Originally Posted by Kakarlos19 Go to original post
is totally understandable, a little harsh but understandable.She is in 4vs 4 with her feats unchecked, op.
I expect that you were not calling me names, cause I did not insult you in any way, I was just responding at first to the OP, cause in my opinion her feats are, not her moveset at least in my short experience, cause with other chars I manage to win over the mongers.
That´s why is better to use a quote or the name of the person you are responding, cause I think you are in disagree with what Knight Raime Wrote, he is a very knowledgeable person with for honor topics so it would be good to see his response.
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I completely disagree with any nerf ideas on Warmonger, the only thing that might get a look at are some of her damage numbers, but even those seem fine. She is a strong hero, but nothing very broken nor unseen. Her chain based offense is reactable and blockable, for the normal numbers and with a late hyperarmor. Her bash is just like Centurion's or Warden's, you make a read to counter it, with a fair reward if you succeed and a fair punish if you do not. The dodge unblockable is fairly slow, deals low damage, and has the same weaknessess all unblockables has. The zone is a normal one. Without her feats, I don't think she would be considered better than any old school viable heroes (like let's say Kensei). If you would add the Corruption feats to Peacekeeper, she would be death itself with them, just like Warmonger is right now (maybe more so because of her speed), that is the only special thing she has that is not fair.
I disagree on PK's viability. Since her nerfs where she lost her 49 damage heavies (and rightfully so, nobody should have 49 damage on a light parry), this must be the closest she is to viable. Her offense works (mainly the dagger cancel mixup), her damage numbers are actually high if you land heavies and guardbreaks (and you will land them pretty often against people once they are conditioned properly), and she became a more decent 4v4 pick since death balling received a slight indirect nerf with the addition of the Warmonger. If her zone would only give a heavy parry punish and her dagger cancel wouldn't lose the momentum on success, I would say she is actually in her completed state, where everything is correct (I wouldn't say no to a chained unblockable top heavy though).
Just because you call someone a rat a few times, you won't be right. I assume you couldn't really adapt to the new hero despite her fairly simple moveset, and you have to act like this to don't feel yourself bad. Trust me, you can unlock her next week, and nothing big will change for you, you will win and lose just as you do. And I say this without ever getting Warmonger myself, I play almost solely PK, Lawbringer and Black Prior since the patch came, with some Jorm here and there.
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@goat
Personally i think her damage numbers along with the rest of the cast's heavy damage numbers should be brought down.
I also think her parry counter when it wall splats needs a damage nerf. 30 damage on a heavy parry is too much in this sandbox we're trying to have of higher ttk.
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I personally dislike the Enhanced lights and heavy parry punish on her. . Its one thing when you have it on hero who can do only other attacks form meaning if you ready to block or counter guardbreak you dont really have to worry about ****. But add unblockable on non hit confirms of lights, its just stupid tbh especially when she can cancel or do heavy one with hyper armor. Just guess right? Good idea.. Lets give tiandi palm strike of blocked light or blackprior tenebris or conq and made some heavy version with hyper armor aswell.. So we play guessing game. These game need something like hit confirms meaning if you do superior light on block and you automatically input unblocklable [ without hit confirm your unblocklable will come late and give your opponent more time to react or punish instantly by attack. She is jailing with lights while rest of the cast have to let heavy rip on her for some pressure to get punished like mother******.
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you know her feats are getting nerfed, yeah?Originally Posted by Joseph_2017 Go to original post
That's the only huge issue with her, so no 4v4 is not shot.
There may be a few things, like knight raime said, that could be tweaked on her, but her moveset is fine. She's just new and so you gotta learn how to fight her.
It's exactly the same thing every time a new hero is released, and sure enough, a month or two goes by, and all the sudden no more complaints.
Oh look, people learned how to fight the new hero.
Every.
Single.
Time.
