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  1. #11
    It should be removed.


    Imo the headbutt has to deal some low chip damage (5?), the Demon's Embrace should get the recovery of a charged warden bash, and that basically solves his duelling problems (in 4v4, he should not have the anti-stagger feat, or it should have a 30s internal cooldown).
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  2. #12
    How bout we give shugo some buffs to be viable before we even consider nerfing something?
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  3. #13
    If it is broken, it must be removed.
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  4. #14
    Thats what they did 100% They released these changes the same time the new hero comes out. (Who happens to have probably the highest damage attacks in the game) Im convinced this update was a huge cash grab to force people to pay for the new hero so they can have a fighting chance against all this baloney going on right now.
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  5. #15
    Speaking of Shugoki, anyone's seen the new combo he can pull off? With demon's embrace having less recovery, you can hug someone, gb them while they are getting back up, heavy to send them flying, and use the bow while they are getting up. Everything after the hug is confirmed. Takes Half of LB's HP... Super balanced.
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  6. #16
    Originally Posted by TJpek Go to original post
    Speaking of Shugoki, anyone's seen the new combo he can pull off? With demon's embrace having less recovery, you can hug someone, gb them while they are getting back up, heavy to send them flying, and use the bow while they are getting up. Everything after the hug is confirmed. Takes Half of LB's HP... Super balanced.
    I have been having a nightmare fighting shugsy. His grab is more believable now which is great. However his HA lights are still an effective stuffing tool and even more so now with the hidden indicator.

    One thing though now that his feint is better, I dislike that his hug doesn't restore stamina to the victim and i don't agree with kits that have healing moves like shaman and shugoki. Especially when they deal pretty solid damage.
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  7. #17
    some players never get satisfied, do they?
    Leave shugo alone for a while, he is at least viable again.
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  8. #18
    Originally Posted by The_Sentinel_ Go to original post
    some players never get satisfied, do they?
    Leave shugo alone for a while, he is at least viable again.
    No. If you remove HA on LB shove remove HA on that ****.
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  9. #19
    Im not sure but i think the animation of his side-lights is also bugged now, due to the animation skip. This or the hitboxes are de-sync for his weapon or other models. His club often stops and connects with dmg, waaay before animation hits the character model.
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