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[g-man24680]

Sorry ubi, but it’s a fact. This has to be said due to your monumental **** up that is Warmonger. Warmonger is an actual complete mess that has made me actually despise for honor and made you one of my least favorite developers to date.

Now, I’m not great at the game. I fully admit that I could improve, or rather, that there are far better players than me. But the fact of the matter is that Ubisoft has left many of the old heroes on the shelf to collect dust. My main issue? Lawbringer. He has a fast top light: that everyone blocks. He has side lights that are slower and easier to block, and he has an absolute travesty of a shove. That was bad enough, but then you decide to literally spit on him by adding Hitokiri, Black prior, and Warmonger. All of those people have EXTREMELY fast shoves that carry into amazing combos that are fast and damaging, whereas lawbringer is still absolute trash. Warmonger also has extremely fast attacks, enhanced lights, anti gank for the enemy but allowing gank for them, and incredible damage. I really want to enjoy myself in this game, but I don’t see that as possible when you literally don’t understand what’s balances. EVERY hero needs some sort of opener, and skills that level the playing field against others.

“Oh, lawbringer is a parry punish character, silly!” Oh, yeah? Man, isn’t it crazy now that Warmonger can punish even better than him now? At THE ONLY THING LAWBRINGER COULD EVER BRING TO THE TABLE?!

You’re getting lazy with your assassins creed games, and you can’t understand how to make things fair in For Honor. It’s disappointing, but as a company, hello games is far better. At least they fix their mistakes.

[Chump94]

Sorry ubi, but it’s a fact. This has to be said due to your monumental **** up that is Warmonger. Warmonger is an actual complete mess that has made me actually despise for honor and made you one of my least favorite developers to date.

Now, I’m not great at the game. I fully admit that I could improve, or rather, that there are far better players than me. But the fact of the matter is that Ubisoft has left many of the old heroes on the shelf to collect dust. My main issue? Lawbringer. He has a fast top light: that everyone blocks. He has side lights that are slower and easier to block, and he has an absolute travesty of a shove. That was bad enough, but then you decide to literally spit on him by adding Hitokiri, Black prior, and Warmonger. All of those people have EXTREMELY fast shoves that carry into amazing combos that are fast and damaging, whereas lawbringer is still absolute trash. Warmonger also has extremely fast attacks, enhanced lights, anti gank for the enemy but allowing gank for them, and incredible damage. I really want to enjoy myself in this game, but I don’t see that as possible when you literally don’t understand what’s balances. EVERY hero needs some sort of opener, and skills that level the playing field against others.

“Oh, lawbringer is a parry punish character, silly!” Oh, yeah? Man, isn’t it crazy now that Warmonger can punish even better than him now? At THE ONLY THING LAWBRINGER COULD EVER BRING TO THE TABLE?!

You’re getting lazy with your assassins creed games, and you can’t understand how to make things fair in For Honor. It’s disappointing, but as a company, hello games is far better. At least they fix their mistakes.

You may not know this, as you said you're not that experienced, however lawbringer right now is one of if not the most competitive heroes. His bash may not be that fast but it has hyper armor and is relatively unpunishable by most of the cast and his top light is that fastest you can get. His parry punishes are also still better than warmonger and he has the highest healthpool in the game and if I'm not mistaken the highest OOS throw punish of anyone.

[g-man24680]

You may not know this, as you said you're not that experienced, however lawbringer right now is one of if not the most competitive heroes. His bash may not be that fast but it has hyper armor and is relatively unpunishable by most of the cast and his top light is that fastest you can get. His parry punishes are also still better than warmonger and he has the highest healthpool in the game and if I'm not mistaken the highest OOS throw punish of anyone.

I’ve been playing since it came out, although not constantly. May I ask what his OOS punish is? Also, in the past few games I’ve gotten smacked out of shoves a total of 6 times, and the top light is known by EVERYONE to the point you can’t get it off anymore. I’ve only got one hand, which contributes to my issues, but it’s mostly that I can’t seem to react fast enough to parry.

[Chump94]

I’ve been playing since it came out, although not constantly. May I ask what his OOS punish is? Also, in the past few games I’ve gotten smacked out of shoves a total of 6 times, and the top light is known by EVERYONE to the point you can’t get it off anymore. I’ve only got one hand, which contributes to my issues, but it’s mostly that I can’t seem to react fast enough to parry.

After a throw it's two top heavies into a top light which I believe comes to 80 dmg however I have not played the recent update it could be less now. As for getting hit out of the shove it could be lag and most people expect LB top lights as they are quite overused which would explain everyone blocking them.

[Chump94]

After a throw it's two top heavies into a top light which I believe comes to 80 dmg however I have not played the recent update it could be less now. As for getting hit out of the shove it could be lag and most people expect LB top lights as they are quite overused which would explain everyone blocking them.

Nevermind I think it LB was nerfed this update which is probably why you get hit out of shove and I think his top light was moved back to 500 ms.

[Lord.Warden.]

Yes. Lawbringer has been nerfed and kicked into the mud. No more hyper armor on shove, and 500 ms top light. He is useless now and picking him is not a smart choice.

[Csodaszarvas_G]

Agreed. As a Lawbringer main I am even more disappointed because the Core Combat Update made him really bad. He feels weak to me. The top unblockable after a parry only deals 21 damage. When I started to play For Honor it was 40, then they lowered it to 30. Then they also lowered his HP to 140 from 150, but that really high HP made him unique and it was also necessary (in my opinion) because he has no hyper armor (only on the shove... but wait...), although he is a 2 meters tall man in full plate armor. They also took away the 400 ms top lights and now THE HYPER ARMOR ON SHOVE IS ALSO GONE. I don't know what to think or how to feel anymore. I truly love Lawbro, he is the hero who I always wanted to play as, since For Honor came out. I joined to the game not long before Jorm came out (I have 33 reps with Lawbringer) and since then Lawbringer only received nerfs!

Thanks for reading, have a nice day!

[RS_PeladoAzul]

Well, if I am an experienced player, putting on the table the fact that the vigilante was way above the rest for having hyperarmor in the slowest bash of the game makes me think that you are the inexperienced Chumb94.
Also you are wrong that his max punish is the strongest in the game, there are 4 heroes above him who surpass the max punish of the LB.

The LB no longer has anything strong with the following patches that will lower the damage it does even more, which by the way, has already been educated 2 times my estimate.

Lastly, I agree that his top ligth is the fastest and most annoying in the game and if he needed a nerf at that, only at that.

[Chump94]

Well, if I am an experienced player, putting on the table the fact that the vigilante was way above the rest for having hyperarmor in the slowest bash of the game makes me think that you are the inexperienced Chumb94.
Also you are wrong that his max punish is the strongest in the game, there are 4 heroes above him who surpass the max punish of the LB.

The LB no longer has anything strong with the following patches that will lower the damage it does even more, which by the way, has already been educated 2 times my estimate.

Lastly, I agree that his top ligth is the fastest and most annoying in the game and if he needed a nerf at that, only at that.

As I said I had not played the recent update and was not aware of the changes to LB at that point, you should read someones post before jumping to conclusions, however in his previous state he was the strongest. Also are these 4 heroes who have better OOS throw punishes before or after the update as if it is before I am not aware of them.