Stamina cost of zone attacks
I feel that the stamina cost of zone attacks are far too high. Using a zone normally takes a third to half of your stamina, which leaves little for other forms of offense. I think stamina cost of zone attacks should be standardised to the cost of normal heavies and lights. For example:
- for every heavy that thrown in a zone, like normal heavies, it should cost 12 stamina.
- for every light that is thrown in a zone, light normal lights, it should cost 6 stamina.
- if the zone involves a bash(e.g. Gladiator), then the bash should be the cost of a standard short bash, e.g. 12-15 stamina.
These changes would make single hit and multi-hit zones fairer and allow for more offense.
Stamina cost of light attacks
The devs made the right call to try to address light spam and make the game more inclusive in the process. However, they took it too far. They didn't need to increase the stamina cost of lights to reduce light spam, they only needed to do the following:
- reduce the damage of light attacks along with heavies to give more time for reads
- reduce the hit stun of lights to allow players to dodge out of their opponent's light chains
- add frame disadvantage to light finishers so the defender can get the next attack first
Increasing stamina cost on lights reduced offense overall since anyone using lights had less stamina for other mixups. This was 1-2 steps backward from the progress we gained from the removed stamina penalties on blocks, parries, and misses.
Thanks for ruining the game with the update. Can’t parry lights anymore, paring low skill and rep levels with levels And skills that are Beyond matching, can’t get health from zones fast enough, die from getting ganked faster, parries no longer lower stamina. Jomangunder needs that and y’all took it off. Revenge system is a joke you can be getting ganked and no revenge or after hitting enemy twice they get a revenge and what’s up with shugoki??!? He can pause your stamina when he grabs you and he gets hella health and stamina while you gotta sit there with low stamina still. You fixed centurions one where he jumps on you and you give the other player full stamina. Do the same thing with shugoki. He already gets the extra health like wtf! High lander is a B**** now all everyone does is spam kick grab and top unbreakable. You gave everything that didn’t need a buff, a buff.... why didn’t you listen to your players?? The ones that actually use the patch’s in game and have to deal with the bs y’all make. You guys don’t even know how much crap is messed up. Fix the characters (shugoki, highlander, nobushi etc.) make it where you can join back into a match (not custom), Fix the zone health gain, fix the revenge system, Fix the bleed out there’s never enough time to get health you run, you die (make it where you kill them it stops the bleeding) Would be cool if when you die you could control a minion for the duration of your execution. Fix the light parrying issue on console, don’t make it where you get a time penalty when you leave ( i get disconnected and it gives a penalty, it’s not fair, punish those that leave a few games in a row) what’s the point of giving centurion a whole rework and then nerf him again. Put 3v3s, 6v6 and make clans (guilds) if you just listen to your players the game would be so much better.
How about not listening to the majority of Redditors as if they're the one source of truth on how to balance your game? This CCU has made the game entirely less fun without many positives. Any characters with unique damage mechanics (basically all Assassins, Raider's Zone, deflect counters, Aramusha) are essentially plain unviable while other heroes are barely affected.
Light spam is still an issue, it's just that now putting a light into a feint mixup (bash feint light, light heavy feint GB) costs half your stamina bar. Also taking out minions with OOL lights is now stupidly frustrating, so thanks for that. Instead of stuffing stamina costs and reducing damage maybe think about just making chain lights or light openers negative on hit? There's plenty of ways to go about alleviating this so-called-but-never-really-a-problem.
Hoping by full release of Warmonger the FH devs can actually sort out the glaring problems literally everyone has been pointing out.
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As y’all can clearly see Ubisoft, stop giving us crap we didn’t ask for, nobody asked for perk changes, no one asked for this garbage combat system, we asked y’all to fix light spamming and revenge achievability. You’d think after 4 years you’d think you’d know how to make this game work, and balancing, y’all are pathetic.
Well you did it worse than ever this time stop throwing consoles in with pc they play completely differently now the only viable tactic on console is light spam because it’s impossible to react to you’ve effectively killed the game on console get rid of this update for Xbox and ps4 and it might actually be good again and start listening to the different communities they’re isn’t any cross platform here so they don’t have to all be the same it doesn’t matter if console is different from pc so just remove the update on console and it’s all good again it’s like the devs don’t even play the game
Assassins like my main Shinobi have been screwed over especially him because everything he does can get countered.He has the lowest amount of health in the game and the same about damage and why was his quad dash removed when Pk and the viking 2 have more dodges. Being the weakest in the game, he shouldn't have a block timer if hes going against Shugoki, Centurian, Warmonger, Jang Juan, and such are so overpowered especially Warmonger since she have the most overpowered feats. Like who came up with a Apollyon ripoff idea. I started playing again yesterday since I wanted to see how things were but first match in, I went against four of her and my entire team ended leaving. I want to rip my hair out after every round because its so frustrating going against overpowered heros with people who non stop gank. This is by far the worst update I've seen in a while for a game with such a big population. I loved the game last season since a few things were more balanced but this season is an absolute **** show. Parries are even harder to do with attack speed increased and un-blockables barely even being able to move out the way of. I would prefer to play Predator Hunting Grounds than this disaster of a game.I love Breakpoint more than this game even though thats considered worse than Wildlands (which after owning both, I can kinda see why.) This update/ future of the game needs to be re thought of which can take inspiration from Ghost of Tushima with that combat system and add other popular Ubisoft series looks into the mix ( Rabids even got a patch in Wildlands.) Like what about even adding predator into the mix, he has weapons we can use and a good set of tools that wouldn't be overpowered. Fix this game before it gets worse.
To ubi:
Guys at this point, just hire Freeze, im really sure he can test any changes and pinpoint every error in design or playability for many years. Hiring him will prolong the life of the game by a lot of years and potentially becoming a worldwide phenomenon with a lot of money in return. Rainbow six siege did it and is older , FH can do it also .
Just add Freeze to the payroll. He already do this for free so I don´t think he will charge that much.
I been playing this ever changing game since beta, the new ccu is not perfect but is not as bad as most people make it out to be. Fights still consist of all the usual tactics and feints, I still get light parried and I still run into players with considerable skill who can kill me with more than the light spam that everyone complains about. The characters don’t seem any less unique as they still all have their own fighting styles, as the damage changes aren’t a big enough difference imo. The stamina changes cause you judge when to fight more aggressively carefully and creates more of a back and forth during a fight. In short, the ccu imo has been good.
But the warmongers feat though ughhh.