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  1. #1

    Warlord Rework

    Would anyone be opposed to these changes to Warlord:

    1. Get rid of the forward headbutt and make it a bash after a light, similar to BP, confirming another light.

    2. Heavy finishers are unblockable

    3. Make his full guard faster to move in and out of.

    These are probably oddball suggestions considering Warlord is pretty much strong as is, but as a Warlord main, I find it very frustrating to counter heabutt spam, but I also find it tough to deal good oos pressure against someone who is better at making reads like that.

    How does this sound to you guys. Im not suggesting a rework or these changes be added, Its just some things I would like to see in WL.
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  2. #2
    Can i report you? This is not a rework is give me all others champ kit...

    1) You don't like the headbutt aesthetically not the action it does, nothing to say are tastes, but if we did every hero then where would the diversity be? Anyway it is already strong as it is the headbutt, indeed in my opinion it would need a small nerf to not be spammed without almost consequences.

    2) Has two-hit combo, if every series ending were unblockable it would become a spam of unblockable anything he does, headbutt, heavy, shield push.

    3) He has one of the fastest full guard of the game, if it become more fast probably you don't need anything else... just spam it.

    He is a hero with a small kit, he need more moves, don't transform what he has with any possible improvement. People don't think to moves they just want more velocity, more unblockable, more bash... probably this game will be better with nothing of this things, only mixup.
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  3. #3
    A light-bash-light move with a very fast bash would be very broken on him, since unlike Prior, he has superior lights while Prior has not. It is a huge difference if he could access this without even landing or corrrectly whiffing a light, and his lights will be unreactable in the new system. Meanwhile, the headbutt would be really missing from neutral.

    A heavy finisher which is also hyperarmored is too strong imo for him. And he does not need even stronger fullguard, his is already very easy to use.



    If he needs any buffs, that buff should be some kind of dodge attack. That is the only part where he is seriously missing something.
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  4. #4
    Originally Posted by Astrad06 Go to original post
    Can i report you? This is not a rework is give me all others champ kit...

    1) You don't like the headbutt aesthetically not the action it does, nothing to say are tastes, but if we did every hero then where would the diversity be? Anyway it is already strong as it is the headbutt, indeed in my opinion it would need a small nerf to not be spammed without almost consequences.

    2) Has two-hit combo, if every series ending were unblockable it would become a spam of unblockable anything he does, headbutt, heavy, shield push.

    3) He has one of the fastest full guard of the game, if it become more fast probably you don't need anything else... just spam it.

    He is a hero with a small kit, he need more moves, don't transform what he has with any possible improvement. People don't think to moves they just want more velocity, more unblockable, more bash... probably this game will be better with nothing of this things, only mixup.
    Point 2 doesn't make sense considering, JJ, BP, cent, hitokiri, shugoki, warden all exist and do this exact thing and they range from OP to trash in hero viability

    Point 3 is just irrelevant considering there are only like 3 people in the game with a proper full block and they all do it realistically at the same speed but warlord draws the short end of the stick by not being able to move and loses a billion stamina per second while in full block
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  5. #5
    Originally Posted by Goat_of_Vermund Go to original post
    A light-bash-light move with a very fast bash would be very broken on him, since unlike Prior, he has superior lights while Prior has not. It is a huge difference if he could access this without even landing or corrrectly whiffing a light, and his lights will be unreactable in the new system. Meanwhile, the headbutt would be really missing from neutral.

    A heavy finisher which is also hyperarmored is too strong imo for him. And he does not need even stronger fullguard, his is already very easy to use.



    If he needs any buffs, that buff should be some kind of dodge attack. That is the only part where he is seriously missing something.
    If they were to add it they should make it like jorms bash were it doesn't guarantee damage. But they still need to keep the neutral headbash. He would be truly useless without it.
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  6. #6
    Originally Posted by CanadianSoupMan Go to original post
    Point 2 doesn't make sense considering, JJ, BP, cent, hitokiri, shugoki, warden all exist and do this exact thing and they range from OP to trash in hero viability

    Point 3 is just irrelevant considering there are only like 3 people in the game with a proper full block and they all do it realistically at the same speed but warlord draws the short end of the stick by not being able to move and loses a billion stamina per second while in full block
    Point 2: All those you have pointed out do not have heavy series endings unless you have to upload them, so what you said is irrelevant, I judge what has been written or "transform heavy series endings into unblockable" as they are, a crazy thing, if you don't think so we found out what the community problem is and I urge you to go and complain about the sex of the characters instead of the statistics.

    Point 3: An increase in the speed of execution has been proposed, you have highlighted an inadequate consumption of stamina and the lack of possibility to move as other characters are allowed. I urge you again to read what has been proposed, an increase in the speed of execution (the one we are talking about but you like to digress) would be completely unbalanced, it would allow you to react even late to any attack with a full block. For the rest it is an alternative proposal but it has nothing to do with the speed of execution.

    If you want to answer point by point you are free to do it but keep on the subject, I don't answer A talking about B.
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  7. #7
    Originally Posted by Astrad06 Go to original post
    Point 2: All those you have pointed out do not have heavy series endings unless you have to upload them, so what you said is irrelevant, I judge what has been written or "transform heavy series endings into unblockable" as they are, a crazy thing, if you don't think so we found out what the community problem is and I urge you to go and complain about the sex of the characters instead of the statistics.

    Point 3: An increase in the speed of execution has been proposed, you have highlighted an inadequate consumption of stamina and the lack of possibility to move as other characters are allowed. I urge you again to read what has been proposed, an increase in the speed of execution (the one we are talking about but you like to digress) would be completely unbalanced, it would allow you to react even late to any attack with a full block. For the rest it is an alternative proposal but it has nothing to do with the speed of execution.

    If you want to answer point by point you are free to do it but keep on the subject, I don't answer A talking about B.
    I\m not sure if you are google translating or something but I cannot really understand your vocabulary here as it makes it sound like you are talking about something entirely different. Did you also try to insult my game knowledge by telling me to complain about genders but then turn around and tell me to stay on topic? I must be getting trolled right now.
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  8. #8
    Hahahahahaha you are simply a joke, that's all, you cannot complain a message and you want to talk about a game. Too hard to understand for you? don't you know how to argument? I have read some of your post, they are all similar and useless, you read a topic and talk of something else. Hey it's not your problem you are canadian, when we invented language you probably were eating grass, so don't talk me about english grammar.

    Oh next time remain on the topic, if you want to talk of grammar or something else there are other places.
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  9. #9
    Whats with the new influx of hostile posters? Games not done a marketing drive...
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  10. #10
    I have not insulted anyone, I have only replied to a person who, rather than reading, replied with different topics and replied not to the main topic, to which my answer was intended, but to my topic, invalidating him first everything I had said with arguments really irrelevant since not related to the main message. Upon my reply to his topic which tried to explain that I had responded to the main proposal, I was accused of teasing and knowing little English. It will not be the best English heard (I wrote it several times apologizing in other posts) but it allows me to work with foreign countries without problems, and I remember that this is an international forum, the fact that one is a native speaker does not give him permission to scold other people on the language, bypassing the topic you are talking about. If you want to *****, don't complain about the consequences. Having said that I personally go back to talking about the proposed topic: Warlord Rework.
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