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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by TheSamurai2007 Go to original post
    I have played so much lawbringer and here is my issue with him. If your opponent forces you to attack you are ******. He has no offence and insane defense. Maybe buff his offense a lot and nerf his defense a bit.
    so you want to rework LB are S Tier list

    Where balance people are saying and you want to rework LB are S Tier list git gud
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    Originally Posted by HyperArmorSalt Go to original post
    so you want to rework LB are S Tier list

    Where balance people are saying and you want to rework LB are S Tier list git gud
    You are aware he is only viable for all the wrong reasons (like Conq).

    Overloaded defensive.

    So overloaded that the hero is basically currently a hero on training wheels.

    People ask for a rework to make him less unhealthy for the game.
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  3. #13
    Just make his flip move feintable with hyper armor (for mix ups whether he lets it go or feints it into GB or shove) and take away the hyper armor on the shove. This is ALL that he needs.
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    Originally Posted by Lord.Warden. Go to original post
    Just make his flip move feintable with hyper armor (for mix ups whether he lets it go or feints it into GB or shove) and take away the hyper armor on the shove. This is ALL that he needs.

    Still a bad idea, you can’t fix a hero that is flawed in design by making one thing.

    I say it again, Lb is flawed to the core with his current moveset.
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    Originally Posted by Gaser. Go to original post
    Still a bad idea, you can’t fix a hero that is flawed in design by making one thing.

    I say it again, Lb is flawed to the core with his current moveset.
    I don't think he's flawed. He just simply lacks offense. He needs a proper opener and that will come from the suggestion I gave above. It will make him effective and will stop the turtle meta.
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    Originally Posted by Lord.Warden. Go to original post
    I don't think he's flawed. He just simply lacks offense. He needs a proper opener and that will come from the suggestion I gave above. It will make him effective and will stop the turtle meta.
    Your idea will basically make shove useless and turn the flip in to that what shove now is but stronger. (You basically will create Shove but from neutral plus the ability to feint, wouldn’t fix anything it would just make Lbs play even more defensive and it will be even easier)
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  7. #17
    Originally Posted by Gaser. Go to original post
    Your idea will basically make shove useless and turn the flip in to that what shove now is but stronger. (You basically will create Shove but from neutral plus the ability to feint, wouldn’t fix anything it would just make Lbs play even more defensive and it will be even easier)
    It will force players to make a read just like with Sakura, Warden, Cent, and many other characters... He needs a 50/50 opener (You can always roll away though but obviously it will drain your stamina). This will simply force players to do something other than just stare him down and him staring back at them.

    It's either that, or speed up his shove to 500 ms like every other bash to be used as an opener like Centurion's kick. However, that will only turn him into another bash hero. I think the flip is the best option for a buff/fix.
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    Originally Posted by Lord.Warden. Go to original post
    It will force players to make a read just like with Sakura, Warden, Cent, and many other characters... He needs a 50/50 opener (You can always roll away though but obviously it will drain your stamina). This will simply force players to do something other than just stare him down and him staring back at them.

    It's either that, or speed up his shove to 500 ms like every other bash to be used as an opener like Centurion's kick. However, that will only turn him into another bash hero. I think the flip is the best option for a buff/fix.
    Again no, the idea is bad and is nothing more then a improved Shove from neutral.

    The move would have to get hyper armour instantly to be useful which will just turn it in to a reaction tool to trade, pretty much the same as Shove.

    Changing one thing on a flawed hero won’t fix the hero, especially when the change you suggesting isn’t good or useful in anyway. (Outside of turning in to a overtuned Defensive tool)
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  9. #19
    I'm a rep 60 lawbringer I would classify myself as in the majority of the player base.
    The top teir players in game LB is probobly an issue, he's extreamly defenceive and doesnt have much good except for his near broken punishes. His "rework" if you can call it that was pretty atrocious and some people liked it but LB mains deffinatly didnt. I found a nice rework idea from a petition site by Konnor Kelly I think its a really good idea I wanted to share it with more people to get more opinions on how good/bad it is

    "Lawbringer was disrespected by the recent patch, much was expected and little was delivered. Many users on For Honor love Lawbringer, including me. We want our knight hero to be viable and keep his personality. What needs to happen: Top Light speed changed to 500ms, hyper armor on heavy attacks, soft-feint heavy attacks into a 500ms bash, Impaling-Ripost damage buffed to 15-18 damage, Buff Long Arm to be 800-900ms and to give it start up hyper armor, Stamina pool buff to 140 or overhaul of all moves to require less stamina, smooth animation transitions, and give heavy attacks and heavy attack finishers more forward momentum. (Another suggestion; if a heavy is the second move in a three move chain it should be undodgeable). These are the changes that I (a Reputation 26 Lawbringer) think would make Lawbringer viable, fit his personality, and still be fair. These are just my suggestions and you have the right to state your own. Tell me what you agree with, what you disagree with, and more!"

    If you did like this idea spread it as much as you can so we can get ubisoft to notice
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  10. #20
    Leave LB alone all he needs is his hype shove back done nothing else needs touching are you all mad?
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