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    U.S, Sanctions, Yara

    Yara is under sunctions in the game...

    WHY?


    Why Cuba under sunctions we understand. But why Yara?

    It should be explained in the game!

    You can't just throw - Yara is under sunctions.









    That's right.


    Anton is right-wing, in our case.

    But why U.S doesn't like him?
    Because he doesn't promote american business interests in the country.

    He is right-wing and closer to nationalists.
    Anton is definitely not left-wing.

    He should use strong anti-U.S, anti-imperialistic rhetoric in his speech. Patriotic rhetoric.
    Anton is nationalist.
    Moreover he is fascist. He should hate leftists.

    Fascio - means bundle, bum, in italian. Unity.
    Fascism has only one main goal - to beat leftists.
    That's why "unity" is used.
    "We are all yara people, we should unite. Leftists want to devide us. They are enemies."
    Fascism denies any class struggle. Absolutely denies.

    Unity - sounds so beautiful and so right. Many people are falling for that.
    Fascism is the last, strong weapon in the hand of capital.

    Anton is right - wing. He is nationalist and fascist.
    He is capitalist.

    What does it mean?

    His country is for minority. His country is not for majority of people. (Like Cuba today)

    Capitalism - means power of capital. Power of rich. Power of minority. Their interests.
    Socialism - means power of socium. Power of majority of people. Their interests.

    If you're on the top of food chain - you'll pray for capitalism. And hate socialism.
    So with countries. If your country is on the top of food chain - capitaism may seem not so bad.

    Socialism itself is very complicated thing. Where millions are involved.
    It's like superjet. It has it's own scientific laws.

    For Latin America....capitalism, and U.S imperialism is very heavy burden.
    Anti-Americanism is very strong there.
    They should constantly suffer under the rule of right-wing dictators, imposed by U.S.
    They should live under that never ending fascism.

    Meddling after meddling....
    Invasions after invasions....









    U.S imposes right-wing dictators to promote U.S business interests.

    Left-wing government will care more about it's own people and care interests of its own people first.
    That's why U.S hates left countries - Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua...

    U.S is trying to undermine such countries in all possible ways.

    For example, Cuba is in terrible blocade now.
    Cuba is a little island under such an economic and military monster like U.S.
    Cuba suffers greatly.

    Imagine if such a blocade martians, for example, had imposed on the U.S.A!
    I'm sure the country would have been plunged into riotes and collapsed long ago.

    But Cuba is still alive.

    Cubans are special people. Strong and proud.


    What is Cuba for Latin America?

    Cuba is a dream.

    Dream. Not in means of suffering under blocade. But in means of country for its people.
    With free medicine, education. Without ''favelas". Just without crime. Without racism.


    But to be a country for your people you should pay a heavy price.

    You should suffocating in the blockade.
    And it's in 21st century!

    The goal of blockade is only one - make people suffer so much.....make their life so unbearable....make them remove their own government.
    Remove it and impose the government that will promote U.S interests.


    As for blockade and Jara, Anton mat say something like - "They call me fascist....but reall fascists are in the White House."


    In the game should be explained why U.S doesn't like Anton Castillio.
    U.S doesn't like him because he doesn't promote U.S interests in his country.

    But at the same time he is not socialist.
    His country doesn't belong to its people.

    What does he want?

    Possibly he promotes the interests of the local bourgeoisie to the detriment of U.S interests.


    But what if it turns out that removing one dictator we'll put another dictator in his place? Even worse.
    Direct U.S puppet.

    Who we are, in this case?

    We are used by C.I.A?

    We're romantic fools, revolutionaries, used by more progmatic people?


    So far.....everything is confused and unclear.



    But Revolution itself means System Changing.
    In Cuba was pure Revolution.
    Capitalism was changed to Socialism.
    Country for minority was changed to the country for majority.



    If we'll not change the System it's not a revolution!
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    Such graffity is rather common in Latin America....




















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    Wow...lol, such ignorance of history and how both far left and far right ends of the spectrum operate. Sorry to say, but communism is great at talking about taking care of the people, but usually ends up killing millions of them in the "necessary purge of detractors"....which is pretty much the same as what happens when you get far right fascist empires too.

    In US history, you can find the fight against both Fascist and Communists extremists, and as someone mentioned once before the far left and right scale isn't linear and is instead more horseshoe shaped, with the far ends being pretty close to each other in effect, and ends, just different rhetoric.

    You can look at the Russian revolution, the CCP Mao revolution, and look at Venezuela and see how bad people had in those countries, and the look at 1930-1940s Germany and see how that worked out....same crap, just different rhetoric.

    Communism is a great idea to see in games and movies but horrible in actual practice in the world. It has failed over and over and over again, killing hundreds of millions actually.

    You can get communism to work in small scale, maybe a couple hundred or less people, but anything more and bad stuff will happen.

    Honestly, extremes of either end scare the crap out of me, and I would rather see Free Market with some government oversite to prevent abuse, but limited ability to control the people. I would rather see a government more like the 1800s US, than any modern edition of any form, or country.
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    Good that you wrote it, modmcsupersport. Really.

    Theme is rather big and interesting.


    You've gathered all stereotypes and cliche about left-movement. ( Not all, of course. They are much more.)

    Stereotypes that capitalism use to brainwash its people against communism.


    So, first....

    1) The most widespread - communism killed millions.


    O.k. Can you give the list of the victimes?
    Can you name those millions or billions by their names and surnames.
    One by one.
    Like a real historic document.

    Your statement should have some ground.

    Otherwise it's just a slander.


    By the way, very convinient throw-in...."Communism killed millions!"

    Go and check now! Who will check?!


    But..... it was checked. There are such historians. True scientists trying to get to the Truth.
    And there are more and more of them today.

    Because Lying can't be hide forever.

    They were sitting in the archives for years.
    Looking through the tones of documents.
    Years of the most tedious work.

    Studying thoroughly every case.


    As usual they're shocked.
    Most of people who were "repressed by communism" were just criminals.

    But who wants to admit that your father or grandfather, for example, were criminals?!

    "No! They were fighters against communist dictatorship!"


    It reminds me about one of such stories.

    One person insisted and talked everywhere, on TV, wrote - "My father just told an anecdote about Stalin and was repressed because of that!"
    O.K! Historians began to study documents.....one....another
    And what?!
    He is criminal on criminal. Up to assault!

    Must be he was talking an anecdote while he was drilling a safe....


    So, what was the result of careful, historical documents, study? About "miilions and millions innocent victims of communism".


    97,5% of the population of Soviet Union has never experienced any kind of repressions!



    And don't forget - There was a Nuremberg Tribunal over Fascism.
    There was not a Nuremberg Tribunal over Communism.

    Because Nuremberg Tribunal is possible more likely over Capitalism than over Communism!

    Communists are saint in comparison with capitalists.

    This is the experience of millions of people who have experienced both capitalism and communism on their own skin.






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    Hmm, ok, I see you are a zealot and thus nothing will change your mind.

    If you say capitalism kills 100 million a year because they don't cure all ills in the world, what is your excuse for China and Russia in not doing so, as they are larger and have more people to help out around the world than the US??

    If you can't be bothered to do the research and read the reports of the horrors of the purges of Mao and Stalin, then nothing I say will ever convince you.

    It is ironic that you will say, "Post up names!!!....Then claim capitalism kills more and oh yeah, fail to post names and how they died....and yet totally absolve Communist countries from fixing these same ills.


    You are here on the English board, so I assume you are American, English, Canadian or Austrialian....so when are you moving to China, Russia or Venezuela?? Since you know they are so great you know, and all the countries I named that you are probably in are so evil capitalistic.....

    You also realize that Russia and China had to create a hybrid capitalistic system to prevent the total collapse of their countries....and they are still highly Authoritarian, with China being worse. Russia has actually progressed further into capitalism, but still have a strong state control, almost Fascism like, but really more a haves and have nots system really.

    Now post your propaganda, spout your "reasons" everyone else is wrong, and know that I am laughing at your ignorance and really hoping you get a chance to live under the system you love so much, as long as it isn't in the same country I live in.
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    GameGuru2018, I will give you names of victims of Communism:

    Deng Xiaoping (China's leader in 1989) 's son, who was thrown out of a 4th floor window, during Mao's Cultural Revolution (1966-1976).
    Peng Dehuai, marshal of China.
    He Long, marshal of China
    Liu Shaoqi, leader of China's government during the Cultural Revolution.

    These people were killed during the Cultural Revolution. Deng's son was paralyzed for life.

    And in the Soviet Union: comrade Kirov, who was a capable leader killed by Stalin. 300 thousand Russian Orthodox priests killed by execution.

    Communism killed 50-70 million Chinese during the famine of Great Leap Forward (1958-1962), where Mao wanted all iron to be melted down to make cannons, so the agriculture tools were also melted down. This means peasants could not cultivate the land, and led to massive famine.

    Communism also killed at least 50 million Russian Orthodox Christians.

    The most major feature of Communism, and makes it an enemy of God, is that it tries to destroy religion including Orthodox Christianity, by killing, imprisoning, and torturing. Communism is atheist and militantly enforces atheism upon all people it rules. It forces people to be atheist.

    Capitalism is essentially encouragement of greed and money-making. The Bible says that love of money is root of all evil. So Capitalism is not good either. But at least, in the countries run by capitalism, they give freedom for Christianity to spread and meet in churches. Nobody is forced to stop being Christian.

    So both Communism and Capitalism are bad, but Capitalism is the lesser of two evils, and it allows freedom for Christianity.

    There is a book titled "The Black Book of Communism", where the crimes of Communism are listed in great detail. There are many other books. Every educated person knows about the great crimes of Communism against the people it ruled over, the massacres and famines and concentration camps (gulag in Soviet Union, laogai camp in China) and killing of Christian clergy and forcing Christians to eat excrement in prison. In the Soviet Union, they forced Orthodox Christians in the gulags to eat excrement and drink urine. This was done to Jeremiah Denton by the Communist North Vietnamese. Jeremiah Denton was a U.S. military pilot captured over North Vietnam during the Vietnam War. He later became an admiral and a congressman. He wrote about the Communist tortures in a book titled "When Hell was in session".

    Here is an article about the last Tsar (Emperor) of Russia murdered by the Communists:
    https://orthochristian.com/128053.html

    Here is an article about the 300 thousand Orthodox priests killed by the Soviet communists:
    https://russian-faith.com/persecutio...ov-video-n1105
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    JohnOrthodox, you're throwing another bunch of lyings.


    At first sight it looks even rather convincing......But that's how people are usually brainwashed and manipulated!


    HALF OF THE TRUTH. Something taken out of context.


    C.I.A was formed in 1947 with the main goal - to undermine Soviet Union and communist movement in the world. Trillions and trillions of dollars was spent on that.
    C.I.A senior officials bragged themselves about it later, after USSR ceased to exist.
    Many institutes were formed for this purpose. Organizations....

    One soviet dissident, Zinoviev, who moved to the west and who hated communists first .....he was shocked. He couldn't believe his eyes!!!
    So many organization are trying to undermine his country!
    What a Force is working outside!

    Using the most dirty falsifications. Distorting facts. Replacing the concepts. Writing books, making movies....
    It was a real large-scale Idealogical War.

    If you say something against communists - you're hero!
    If you you're pouring dirt on communism - you're freedom fighter! Fighter for democracy!

    Talk,talk!
    Write, write!
    More!
    About those blood-thirsty, dirty commies!

    Yeah! GULAG! So cool! More horror!


    Only one word - Comminism - should give people goosebump!


    Everyone who poured dirt on communists is a hero.
    You've wrote "The Gulag Archipelago"!?
    Fantastic!
    Nobel Prize for you!

    But the fact that the book is fantastic itself, or better to say fantasy-horror, who care?!
    The more horror about communists the better.

    When Solzhenitsyn return later.....people first met him as a great writer, being under mass-media propaganda.
    But later he understood that people don't understand him at all.

    If he came back today people would just spit in his face. 100%!
    And the first one to spit would be the former Gulag residents themselves.

    What does it mean Gulag?

    Gulag is the synonym of U.S Civil Work Administration.

    Building of roads, canals, bridges, sometimes in new unhabited places.

    8,5 millions americans passed through U.S Gulag. Not counting prisoners.

    Just every country has its own Gulag!


    As usual people who writes horrors about such places are in lower heirarchy there.

    Criminal society has its own heirarchy.
    And such people are at the lowest level.
    Criminals call such people - "Sh...t" or "Devils"

    Being a "Sh...t" or "Devil" in crimrinal society is rather hard.
    Your life will be hard.
    Anyone at the higher level can kick you, or blow his nose in your closes.
    Higher level person can make you wash his socks.
    Your slipping place will be near the toilet or just near the toilet bowl. (depends on building)
    So on and so on.


    To be continued......
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    Originally Posted by modmcsupersport Go to original post
    You can look at the Russian revolution
    And when you look at it, you will see that it is revolution: gave workers real right, gave people education, gave woman equal rights (to vote, for example) and even kindergardens is too - product of Revolution.

    Originally Posted by modmcsupersport Go to original post
    Communism is a great idea to see in games and movies but horrible in actual practice in the world. It has failed over and over and over again, killing hundreds of millions actually.
    Well, in Russian, because if communism, we got many good things and Russia is, actually, still standing because of USSR legacy. Factories, education for everyone, equal rights, 8-hours working day, healtcare and many other great thing.
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    Originally Posted by modmcsupersport Go to original post
    You can look at the Russian revolution, the CCP Mao revolution, and look at Venezuela and see how bad people had in those countries, and the look at 1930-1940s Germany and see how that worked out....same crap, just different rhetoric.
    Seriously? Germany with one race of humans and other seen as animals and USSR where all people was considered euqual - same crap to you? Really?! BTW, in 20s-30s there was many US workers in USSR (for example, they was building GAZ - Gorkovskiy Automobile Factory) and it was quite interesting that soviet administration had to defend afroamerican US workers from their US administration.

    Originally Posted by modmcsupersport Go to original post
    If you can't be bothered to do the research and read the reports of the horrors of the purges of Mao and Stalin, then nothing I say will ever convince you.
    Stalin purges never had that big scale that you think that was.

    Originally Posted by modmcsupersport Go to original post
    You are here on the English board, so I assume you are American, English, Canadian or Austrialian....so when are you moving to China, Russia or Venezuela??
    Well, I live in Russia and there is many problems created by USA.
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    Originally Posted by JohnOrthodox Go to original post
    And in the Soviet Union: comrade Kirov, who was a capable leader killed by Stalin. 300 thousand Russian Orthodox priests killed by execution.
    Well, about Kirov - it is unproven. And about 300 thousand Russian Orthodox priests killed by execution... Well, I have doubts because numbers is too great and in USSR repressions to church wasn't that heavy. Even more, in 30s there was even books with prayers printed for belivers. Some prints (batch of books in 1938) was issued for army to soldiers who believe in God.

    Note that some amount of priests was against USSR and was working against with anyone who asked. Also, some of them was killed by locals for helping with opression of local population (by local gangs or police) before USSR administration arrived.

    Originally Posted by JohnOrthodox Go to original post
    Communism also killed at least 50 million Russian Orthodox Christians.
    WHAT? 50 millions??? Are you serious? Lets look at population of Russia:

    Before Revolution in 1917 - 170 millions.

    After some parts of former Empire become independent (like Finland, Poland or Western Ukraine) and Russian Civil War in 1926 - 146 millions.

    In 1937 - 164 millions.

    In 1941 - 198 millions.

    After WWII - 172 millions.

    1959 - 208 millions.
    1970 - 241 millions.
    1989 - 286 millions.

    And now you tell me that Communists killed at least 50 millions of Russian Orthodox Christians ONLY?! Where are they in that statisctics? Because, in USSR there was also many muslims, jews, buddihtst and even pagans in some areas. Also, note how great Communists was at killing people that population of USSR almost doubled despite Civil War and WWII.

    Originally Posted by JohnOrthodox Go to original post
    Here is an article about the last Tsar (Emperor) of Russia murdered by the Communists:
    https://orthochristian.com/128053.html
    So?
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